Its NOT about the interface, really, if you think that, then go please REREAD the stuff.
It is about SPEED, and a RELIABLE way of trading without having to re-trade someone like 5 times to get finally the trade done. and if the wonder ever happens, that a trade can be done in under 20 seconds (without sitting right next to the trade server, and getting all the downloads for the interface instantly). And "calming down", yeah, right, like that helps with the issues. The only way is to keep asking attention to it to get some done. Ignoring something doesn't make it go away. What happens for me: - open trade with somebody - wait 10-15 seconds with a black screen with nothing happening. Gets a "oops something went wrong" so often here. - wait another 10-20 seconds while the interface is being build up in the browser while the pictures and content are being downloaded. Same, kills often itself right after finally all is downloaded. - Trade, items zip back to the backpack instead of staying in the trade window. It becomes inresponsive, and cancels out random here. - Agree to the trade, wait for 10-30 seconds till something happens and just hope it works, for I had already 6 times today that the trade didn't go thru, while we both agreed to the trade. Here often it doesn't go to the next screen with the items you traded for. No way of knowing if you got them or not. Have often to check the backpack via a backpack site to see if items got swapped or not. - Finally, _IF_ the screen appears that you have received the items, you can be sure that the trade actually worked. so - Trades get canceled for arbitrary reasons, and cant rely on them to be 100% working at ANY given stage. - Even when agreed, a trade can be canceled for w/e reason. The only way to be sure is seeing the end screen with the items. Which doesn't appear half the times you get that far. - The time taken from start to finish for a single trade is way too long. Too much times I have to re-trade again to get them items accross. - Even once all those crashout/cancels and w/e get fixed (ie: we can trade always fully the first time we try), it is still way too SLOW. I'm not on a bad connection, i'm not in a 3rd world country, I'm in north-west Europe, I got 30 mbit download and 4 mbit upload connection, my ping to gameservers around is often under 20, everything outside steam works fast like a charm, and got a fast PC where I have in most current games 100+ FPS. >________________________________ > From: doc <[email protected]> >To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list ><[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 19:06 >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 Update Released > >This is why I advocate for everyone to just calm down about the change. It >may not be the best thing ever forever of all times, but assuming Valve >play their games and listen to people whine then I'm pretty certain the >trading interface might get better with age. > >On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Eric Riemers <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I've got many complains from people on the trade servers and on forums.. >> >> At least they changed the sort order to match your backpack i believe, that >> was reason number 1 for not using it at all. (which should have been there >> *before* the change) lets hope on a new update later next week. >> >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:18:30 -0800, Kyle Sanderson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Well, they can't really roll back now. It's Friday, and we all know what >> > happens with Friday updates :P >> > >> > Kyle. >> > On Feb 17, 2012 8:12 AM, "ics" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> I understand having 2 duplicate systems made into one and have options >> >> like other games and items from other games to be traded between players >> >> but what i don't understand is why much faster and reliable than the >> >> current system was removed before the system was made more convenient >> and >> >> faster? Players will get used to the current one too but that's not the >> >> point. If you wanted to do a quick trade, that was it. Now it just takes >> >> too long. Shoudl have kept the old intact untill things were ready to be >> >> released to wider audience. >> >> >> >> -ics >> >> >> >> 17.2.2012 17:55, AnAkIn . kirjoitti: >> >> >> >>> I prefer the Steam trading system. >> >>> >> >>> 2012/2/17 hlds<[email protected]>: >> >>> >> >>>> We had two trading mechanism, one being fast and quite reliable (if we >> >>>> can >> >>>> use this word for something related to Steam/TF2), while the other >> >>>> allowing >> >>>> advanced trades (more than 8 items + trading games etc...), but being >> >>>> slow >> >>>> and failing many times. Now we have only one. I didn't know that >> >>>> removing a >> >>>> feature used by many players is a good thing... >> >>>> >> >>>> I understand Valve's point of view (is easier to maintain and improve >> >>>> one >> >>>> mechanism instead of having two), but why is this "a good thing" for >> >>>> others? >> >>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>> From: >> >>>> >> hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.com< >> [email protected]> >> >>>> >> [mailto:hlds_linux-bounces@**list.valvesoftware.com< >> [email protected]>] >> >>>> On Behalf Of doc >> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:44 AM >> >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory Team Fortress 2 Update Released >> >>>> >> >>>> For every complaint that gets filed I'd like to vote FOR steam >> >>>> overlay/inventory trading. I think it's a good thing and more >> >>>> importantly: >> >>>> haters gotta hate. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Frank<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> To be honest I was expecting a roll-back to at least the Option of >> >>>>> having >> >>>>> in-game trade overlay returned. >> >>>>> Can someone at least reply if this is being looked at after all the >> >>>>> opposition and complaints its gotten? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On another note glad to see the client crashes fixed and the server >> >>>>> >> >>>> restart >> >>>> >> >>>>> requests..very much appreciated! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >> >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >>>> please visit: >> >>>> >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux< >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux< >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >visit: >https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
