I already mention this above. It only sends the top 25 servers from the
search for scoring to the game coordinator. For me in the US that tends to
be Valve servers most of the time.
Using the command "tf_matchmaking_spew_level 2" will only show the servers
it actually considered sending you to. The rest are irrelevant unless you
just want to see their rank data.

Newb friendly maps don't really matter because newbs are sent to Valve
servers first and there will always be Valve servers running those maps.
This might have a difference in places where Valve does not have servers
with good ping and the community runs local server. So probably places like
Australia.

In regards to counting bots with numplayers, yes it does. BUT this is why
Valve previously made such a big deal about servers being tagged wrong.
This was the reason why nighteam got delisted for a month. It was not for
fakeplayers (which they removed) but for missing tags. Servers with bots
have the bot tag and that probably adjusts the user score.

This is why the servers which still abuse fakeplayers/disguised bots fill
up so easily via quickplay. They remove the bot tag and disguise their bots
as real players.

Also here's a comparison of the matchmaking spew command values 2 and 4
tf_matchmaking_spew_level 2
http://pastebin.com/n9NLN2r1

tf_matchmaking_spew_level 4
http://pastebin.com/XHDkrPsn


Note that 4 shows a bunch of servers it found but it only consider the top
25 (which are located at the bottom of that list).


On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Erik-jan Riemers <riem...@binkey.nl>wrote:

> I think those lists dont work correctly.
>
> On the first list (the one with the screenshots i see in the top10 special
> attack.net server which has been empty for a long time, it has stats
> online)
>
> Person who has the qpserverlist shows my (lethal-zone.eu) all maps #2
> server being in the top 10, i am sure it is not since normally our #1
> server is almost always full before #2.
>
> Looks more that those outputs are a snippet of servers to choose from at
> that moment or perhaps location? Even servers that should not be on that
> list (non quickplay servers, as in wrong maps or custom mods) are on that
> list too.
>
> And what is this "new user friendly" ? because even the valve servers have
> 1 and 0 behind it.
>
> Silly enough i think it also counts bots with the numplayers, since one of
> our servers with bots is in the list, and it shows the same amount.
>
> Would be good if valve can say a thing or 2, but knowing the formula might
> also allow "abusers" to misuse the system.
>
> Op 26 april 2012 18:07 schreef dan <needa...@ntlworld.com> het volgende:
>
> > On 26/04/2012 16:09, 1nsane wrote:
> >
> >> But most people don't.
> >>
> >
> > What do you mean "most people"? Most people don't play TF2.
> >
> > Assuming you're referring to the TF2 player base, please point to the
> > research you did to determine what most of them know or don't know.
> >
> > Imagine for second that if you just make things up off the top off your
> > head they aren't true.
> > Now stop imagining - it's actually true! The things you make up aren't
> > true.
> >
> >
> >
> >  See what happens to a game mode when it gets removed from quickplay.
> Like
> >> with haloween that went from being the most popular one to being the
> least
> >> popular right after removal.
> >>
> >
> > Right, this has nothing to do with the fact Halloween happens at one
> > specific time of the year.
> > Do you think people stop putting christmas trees in their house because
> > the shops only sell them in December?
> > --
> > Dan.
> >
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