It really depends on how the HWID is generated and if they're fuzzy or not.
It could literally be as simple as a 1 digit change to a MAC address on a
NIC that's not even active, or it could stamp every piece of hardware that
it can pull unique information from and fuzzy the shit out of it.


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 7:56 AM, dan <needa...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> On 23/08/2013 01:43, Scruppy Dawg wrote:
>
>> Everyone knows the HWIDs are stored due to Steamguard (Or some form of
>> HWID, anyway). Couldn't Valve simply add something so that server
>> operators, when banning a SteamID, can also elect to ban the associated
>> HWID? The HWID never needs to be exposed to the server admins.
>>
>
> Is it difficult to change hwid though?
>
> I can't say I've looked at it or care about it, but if something as simple
> as
> changing the mac address alters it, it's not likely to improve anything.
>
> It sounds like one of these things that might work for a week or 2 and then
> cheaters would just figure out a way of working around it.
>
> Auto detecting cheating and kicking / banning seems the best approach.
> Doesn't SMAC and the alternatives work well enough to do that?
>
> I've got to say I don't really notice a significant problem with cheaters
> in TF2
> on the servers I play on.
>
> I can't imagine why someone would keep creating accounts and going back to
> the same server
> only to be kicked and banned immediately, unless it's reached the point
> where
> he's just doing it to wind the server owner and admins up.
>
> --
> Dan
>
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