TF2 player counts have stagnated and even dropped a bit since January 23.

http://www.steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jstime=1&appid=440&from=1388563200000&to=End+Time

To Fletcher and any other Valve employee responsible for this change: This
change will harm TF2 popularity in the long run. Please don't put this on
the back burner because it is destroying player-bases that took years to
build. It takes a long time for a server to reach critical mass.

There are very few people using quickpick or changing quickplay options. We
know this because quickplay connects remained at 7%, down from 30% before
these changes. Since there is no communication what the exact motivations
were to remove community servers from quickplay, here are some general
solutions.

- The play now option button should be labeled. The cancel button could be
moved to the top right and changed to X.
- After 4 hours of play, automatically check community servers.
- After 4 hours of play, switch the play multiplayer button with the
servers button.




On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Abdulrahman Abdulkawi <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I doubt they will change the default option (since they can't guarantee
> the server they are sent to, follows quickplay rules).
>
> @Fletcher Dunn - can you not make a compromise that would work for both
> of us? I think having a notification/box pop up upon opening the quickplay
> after having play X hours with default filters set - to alert the user if
> they wish to expand their search filter to find community servers as well
> as valve servers (with an easy yes/no button).
>
> Sent from Blackberry.
> From: ics
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2014 19:44
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Reply To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers
>
>
> Valve did nice job of alienating players from community servers. 2/4 of
> the 24 slot servers i run are now dead in the water.
>
> -ics
>
> Erik-jan Riemers kirjoitti:
> > Mine already died, only custom servers are still doing fine. Everything
> but
> > stock.. after +- 6 years of having a successful stock server it has now
> > died completely.
> >
> >
> > 2014-02-19 17:39 GMT+01:00 Invalid Protocol <
> > [email protected]>:
> >
> >> Very few players use the server browser or change the default settings
> when
> >> looking for playing a classic game (not prop-hunt, saxon, custom maps
> >> etc...). Now Quickplay sends almost all players to Valve servers. I
> doubt
> >> that many community servers running classic maps / gameplay will
> survive.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:44 AM, Robert Paulson <[email protected]
> >>> wrote:
> >>> This isn't really a big deal.
> >>>
> >>> As I predicted, just about no one uses quickpick. Only 5% of our
> players
> >>> now are from quickplay and 1% use quickpick. I am sure everyone here
> >> using
> >>> Doctor McKay's plugin can confirm this.
> >>>
> >>> Being the default for play now is too much of an advantage and there's
> >> not
> >>> enough being done to put community servers on an even playing field
> with
> >>> official servers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Doctor McKay <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If any other option has "Don't care" chosen, the "Gameserver Host"
> >> option
> >>>> will be interpreted as "Don't care". I've already informed Valve and
> >> they
> >>>> are aware of this.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr. McKay
> >>>> www.doctormckay.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I agree, othrewise that kind of makes the whole idea unfair to
> >>>> communities
> >>>>> and players if that's how they intended it to be (when opting to go
> >> to
> >>> a
> >>>>> community server).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 15 February 2014 19:06, Abdulrahman Abdulkawi <
> >> [email protected]
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Valve servers are showing up when searching for "Community
> >> Servers".
> >>>>>> If this is "how it's meant to be", then that needs to be changed -
> >> If
> >>>> we
> >>>>>> don't get listed in 'Valve servers' option, then Valve Servers
> >>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>> get listed for "Community Servers".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All other filters are 'default'.
> >>>>>>
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