You two aren't getting the point though. If it is the same trend as before, then community servers got massively screwed over for very little benefit.
This doesn't even take into account that TF2 is free-to-play with frequent updates. It should be trending upwards like Dota2. Not the same magnitude, but if it is not even increasing after the supposed problem of community servers were fixed, then this was clearly a bad tradeoff. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Erik-jan Riemers <[email protected]>wrote: > I've always noticed that during the holidays/summer you have more players, > and at the end of the year to and the start of the year its still low. > After that it goes up again. > > > 2014-02-25 3:24 GMT+01:00 Weasels Lair <[email protected]>: > > > Actually, if you plot that over the last 12 months, and throw some other > > games in for comparison ... it doesn't look related at all. Looks like > > game-play for most of the games goes up/down about the same percent at > > about the same time. > > > > > > > http://www.steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jstime=1&appid=440q240q10q730&from=1361692800000&to=1393228800000 > > > > TF2 just seems to swing more wildly. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Robert Paulson <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > TF2 player counts have stagnated and even dropped a bit since January > 23. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jstime=1&appid=440&from=1388563200000&to=End+Time > > > > > > To Fletcher and any other Valve employee responsible for this change: > > This > > > change will harm TF2 popularity in the long run. Please don't put this > on > > > the back burner because it is destroying player-bases that took years > to > > > build. It takes a long time for a server to reach critical mass. > > > > > > There are very few people using quickpick or changing quickplay > options. > > We > > > know this because quickplay connects remained at 7%, down from 30% > before > > > these changes. Since there is no communication what the exact > motivations > > > were to remove community servers from quickplay, here are some general > > > solutions. > > > > > > - The play now option button should be labeled. The cancel button could > > be > > > moved to the top right and changed to X. > > > - After 4 hours of play, automatically check community servers. > > > - After 4 hours of play, switch the play multiplayer button with the > > > servers button. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Abdulrahman Abdulkawi < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I doubt they will change the default option (since they can't > guarantee > > > > the server they are sent to, follows quickplay rules). > > > > > > > > @Fletcher Dunn - can you not make a compromise that would work for > both > > > > of us? I think having a notification/box pop up upon opening the > > > quickplay > > > > after having play X hours with default filters set - to alert the > user > > if > > > > they wish to expand their search filter to find community servers as > > well > > > > as valve servers (with an easy yes/no button). > > > > > > > > Sent from Blackberry. > > > > From: ics > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2014 19:44 > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > > Reply To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community > > Servers > > > > > > > > > > > > Valve did nice job of alienating players from community servers. 2/4 > of > > > > the 24 slot servers i run are now dead in the water. > > > > > > > > -ics > > > > > > > > Erik-jan Riemers kirjoitti: > > > > > Mine already died, only custom servers are still doing fine. > > Everything > > > > but > > > > > stock.. after +- 6 years of having a successful stock server it has > > now > > > > > died completely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-02-19 17:39 GMT+01:00 Invalid Protocol < > > > > > [email protected]>: > > > > > > > > > >> Very few players use the server browser or change the default > > settings > > > > when > > > > >> looking for playing a classic game (not prop-hunt, saxon, custom > > maps > > > > >> etc...). Now Quickplay sends almost all players to Valve servers. > I > > > > doubt > > > > >> that many community servers running classic maps / gameplay will > > > > survive. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:44 AM, Robert Paulson < > > > [email protected] > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>> This isn't really a big deal. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> As I predicted, just about no one uses quickpick. Only 5% of our > > > > players > > > > >>> now are from quickplay and 1% use quickpick. I am sure everyone > > here > > > > >> using > > > > >>> Doctor McKay's plugin can confirm this. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Being the default for play now is too much of an advantage and > > > there's > > > > >> not > > > > >>> enough being done to put community servers on an even playing > field > > > > with > > > > >>> official servers. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Doctor McKay < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> If any other option has "Don't care" chosen, the "Gameserver > Host" > > > > >> option > > > > >>>> will be interpreted as "Don't care". I've already informed Valve > > and > > > > >> they > > > > >>>> are aware of this. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Dr. McKay > > > > >>>> www.doctormckay.com > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Paul <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>> I agree, othrewise that kind of makes the whole idea unfair to > > > > >>>> communities > > > > >>>>> and players if that's how they intended it to be (when opting > to > > go > > > > >> to > > > > >>> a > > > > >>>>> community server). > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> On 15 February 2014 19:06, Abdulrahman Abdulkawi < > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> Valve servers are showing up when searching for "Community > > > > >> Servers". > > > > >>>>>> If this is "how it's meant to be", then that needs to be > > changed - > > > > >> If > > > > >>>> we > > > > >>>>>> don't get listed in 'Valve servers' option, then Valve Servers > > > > >>>> shouldn't > > > > >>>>>> get listed for "Community Servers". > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> All other filters are 'default'. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >>> archives, > > > > >>>>>> please visit: > > > > >>>>>> > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> archives, > > > > >>>>> please visit: > > > > >>>>> > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > >>>> please visit: > > > > >>>> > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > >>> please visit: > > > > >>> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >>> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > >> please visit: > > > > >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
