Solars, Yes, you are right, we are required to use Windows on the desktop, so we help Tom and James with debugging issues there. We wish the Windows E-Text Editor was as good as TextMate, but what can you do?
We are also required to run production apps on Enterprise Redhat Linux, and have both MySQL and Oracle databases connected to Hobo. Oracle might not seem important to most is other countries, but it is still the most used in the US for large applications. We hope to soon test Hobo with JRuby, now that JRuby 1.6 works with Rails 2.2.2 and has multithreading. We have had a couple of discussions with the Sun team about this. They seem very supportive. Being able to deploy a Hobo app to an already supported application server (e.g, JBoss or GlassFish) helps to bridge the hurdle of acceptance in the "Enterprise." You won't believe the pushback we got from the USDA Operations team about installing the latest Ruby on Redhat Linux. Redhat didn't support it! What a joke. Finally our forward-looking CIO intervened and gave the green light! -Owen On Dec 14, 8:58 am, solars <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Owen, > > Haha, thanks for calling me an expert - although I'm really far from > that :D > > You're right yeah, of course a project like this needs contributors > too, not only users. > I for myself am currently not the best at understanding hobo > internals, since I did a lot of work in the past months not related > to hobo, rails or even ruby (unfortunately). > I'm trying to catch up though - struggling with time management I'm > somewhere between understanding hobo, getting better in ruby meta > programming, following rails and writing my own apps and sites. > > Hopefully I can help more in the next months, since most of my other > work is done now. > > What I really like is that some (I think thats actually you Owen?) > use Hobo on a win32 platform and can help people doing the same, > thats pretty cool, and a widespread community is very important. > > In my experience (in #rubyonrails for example) the hardest part of > bringing-people-to-hobo is to convince them that it is not some sort > of inflexible scaffolding like other projects... > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 05:41:12AM -0800, Owen wrote: > > > But we won't be successful unless we can eventually get experts like > > you, Sol, to be contributors and build a critical mass. I am an > > architect and designer, not a day-to-day coder. We are starting to > > build expertise in our team (e.g., Tola and Edmund), but you guys are > > still the key. > > > I have had over 25 years experience as an entrepeneur building mission- > > critical applications with small teams, beating out the Big Guys many > > times using the right tools and having the right teams. So I think I > > have a good gut feel for the potential here. > > > We are very excited we can help in our small way. Many of the recent > > Hobo enhancements were critical to success on the first phase of a > > large project for the US Department of Agriculture. (See the tutorial > >http://cookbook.hobocentral.net/recipes/11-replicate-the-look-and-fee...) > > > There are many, many modules to this application, so It won't go into > > production for several months. But we will keep feeding back into > > Hobo generic enhancements as we go. For example, the recent > > enhancements to LifeCycles and Permissions.. > > > We hope that you all will do the same and contribute as you can. With > > the global recession, it is even more important to be able to build > > apps quickly and to be able to turn on a dime... > > > -Owen > > > n Dec 14, 8:18 am, sol <[email protected]> wrote: > > > very cool to hear that Barquin has such remarkable long term goals! :) > > > > On Dec 14, 2:02 pm, Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Glad you got it. I have frequently had a problem with rubygems.org, > > > > but it usually comes back soon. > > > > > Our goal for Barquin's support and input to Hobo is to make it so you > > > > DON'T have to be a rails expert to use Hobo. > > > > > We look at Hobo as much more than a "Plugin". Hope you all do too. > > > > Unfortunately, the Holy Grail is still down the line a bit... > > > > > Owen > > > > > On Dec 14, 5:46 am, Eric-news <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 13 dec, 23:00, Eric-news <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > --> ruby script/generate hobo --add-gem --add-routes > > > > > > Rails requires RubyGems >= 1.3.1 (you have 1.2.0). Please `gem > > > > > > update > > > > > > --system` and try again. > > > > > > > ~]# gem update --system > > > > > > Updating RubyGems > > > > > > Nothing to update > > > > > > This one was easily solved by running 'update_rubygems' as root. Now > > > > > the hobo-command runs smoothly. > > > > > > -- > > > > > Eric- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hobo Users" group. 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