Owen,

I will be forced to ask for documentation about topics that I didn't
already understood yet (Mltu-model forms and Misc model extensions).
This will probably not benefit new-comers.

Hobo is facing some breaking changes in almost every release. I'm sure
this will be the rule of thumb unitl 1.0. In order to avoid reworking,
I suggest that the topics that will not suffer additional changes
should be documented first.

I've noticed that there is still some documentation in hobo-central
that was not moved to the cookbook (i.e. hobo controllers). Probably
because it is outdated and needs a strong review before making the
move? New-comers will find it easy if all the existing documentation
is located only in one place.

Thanks,
  Tiago Franco

On Dec 14, 4:39 pm, Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> TF,
>
> Couldn't agree with you more!  How has the new doc (hosted at
> cookbook.hobobcentral.net) been for you so far (DRYML, LIfeCycles,
> Permissions?   In addition to filling out the complete "Taglibs", what
> suggestions or other doc to model would you suggest?
>
> Here is the remaining list:
>
>     *      Multi-model forms
>     *      Automatic named scopes
>     *      Miscellaneous model extensions
>     *      Controllers and routing
>     *      The Rapid tag library
>     *      Rich types
>     *      Users and authentication
>     *      Subsites
>     *      Migration generator
>
> What priority would you suggest?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Owen
>
> On Dec 14, 11:31 am, GamaFranco <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I'm using hobo on Windows since september, and this is just my humble
> > oppinion.
>
> > The documentation that was a great help at first was the Agility
> > tutorial. Afaik, most newbies are getting their first impression with
> > hobo through this tutorial. I think it should be kept up to date with
> > the upcoming hobo releases.
>
> > But probably, the piece of documentation that may have the biggest
> > impact in the future is the manual. I think that almost every widelly
> > used framework or application relly on well written manuals.
>
> > Regards,
> >   TF
>
> > On Dec 14, 2:50 pm, solars <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Unfortunately RapidMiner resources are very limited, reason is
> > > (afaik) the name change (former 'yale') and of course that it is
> > > commercial (they want to sell their expensive courses :).
>
> > > I don't know of any usegroup, there is a forum afaik on their site.
> > > I'm playing around with it currently (text classification, etc) but
> > > it's a pretty cool tool with a lot of functionality.
>
> > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:39:39AM -0800, Owen wrote:
>
> > > > Solars,
>
> > > > Love to hear what you are doing with RapidMiner.  Data mining, text
> > > > analysis, predictive modeling are other areas we are working on.  Be
> > > > great to use Ruby as the interface, just like Google is doing with the
> > > > SketchUp API.
>
> > > > Is there a Google group?
>
> > > > -Owen
>
> > > > On Dec 14, 9:29 am, solars <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Owen,
>
> > > > > Kudos to you for using all this on a win32 platform, I remember I
> > > > > had _a lot_ of problems running rails or ruby apps on windows,
> > > > > sometimes. But maybe I just don't have the patience, being used to
> > > > > linux.
>
> > > > > Glad to hear you want to try JRuby! That's pretty cool, I'm already
> > > > > using it (interfacing with Rapidminer, a java datamining app). It's
> > > > > really cool, especially since the whole business world is totally
> > > > > focused on java.
>
> > > > > I did not yet try rails on jruby - but well, now that you mention
> > > > > it, why not :)
>
> > > > > I can imagine the pushback you are facing when using something like
> > > > > ruby or rails in the business world. Although I'm don't have much to
> > > > > do with it, we are encountering it a lot at university. I don't
> > > > > understand it, it's like things other than Java or similar
> > > > > business standards don't even exist and are evil - without a real
> > > > > reason.
>
> > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:13:31AM -0800, Owen wrote:
>
> > > > > > Solars,
>
> > > > > > Yes, you are right, we are required to use Windows on the desktop, 
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > we help Tom and James with debugging issues there. We wish the 
> > > > > > Windows
> > > > > > E-Text Editor was as good as TextMate, but what can you do?
>
> > > > > > We are also required to run production apps on Enterprise Redhat
> > > > > > Linux, and have both MySQL and Oracle databases connected to Hobo.
> > > > > > Oracle might not seem important to most is other countries, but it 
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > still the most used in the US for large applications.
>
> > > > > > We hope to soon test Hobo with JRuby, now that JRuby 1.6 works with
> > > > > > Rails 2.2.2 and has multithreading.  We have had a couple of
> > > > > > discussions with the Sun team about this.  They seem very 
> > > > > > supportive.
>
> > > > > > Being able to deploy a Hobo app to an already supported application
> > > > > > server (e.g, JBoss or GlassFish) helps to bridge the hurdle of
> > > > > > acceptance in the "Enterprise."   You won't believe the pushback we
> > > > > > got from the USDA Operations team about installing the latest Ruby 
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > Redhat Linux.  Redhat didn't support it! What a joke.  Finally our
> > > > > > forward-looking CIO intervened and gave the green light!
>
> > > > > > -Owen- Hide quoted text -
>
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