Tiago, Thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately the timing was bad for 0.8.5 with Tom going on a well-deserved vacation. We didn't have the chance to test the Agility app against the new release, and there appears to be a bug if you try to run the version on Github with Hobo 0.8.5.
My understanding is that he will be back December 26. I also know he took his laptop to work on doc (my wife would KILL me) during down time. ` Good documentation is our #! priority to get my team up-to-speed in 2009. We have the same issue as you. We will work with Tom to track down old vs. new and try to get rid of duplication. Thanks, Owen On Dec 14, 5:47 pm, GamaFranco <[email protected]> wrote: > Owen, > > I will be forced to ask for documentation about topics that I didn't > already understood yet (Mltu-model forms and Misc model extensions). > This will probably not benefit new-comers. > > Hobo is facing some breaking changes in almost every release. I'm sure > this will be the rule of thumb unitl 1.0. In order to avoid reworking, > I suggest that the topics that will not suffer additional changes > should be documented first. > > I've noticed that there is still some documentation in hobo-central > that was not moved to the cookbook (i.e. hobo controllers). Probably > because it is outdated and needs a strong review before making the > move? New-comers will find it easy if all the existing documentation > is located only in one place. > > Thanks, > Tiago Franco > > On Dec 14, 4:39 pm, Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > TF, > > > Couldn't agree with you more! How has the new doc (hosted at > > cookbook.hobobcentral.net) been for you so far (DRYML, LIfeCycles, > > Permissions? In addition to filling out the complete "Taglibs", what > > suggestions or other doc to model would you suggest? > > > Here is the remaining list: > > > * Multi-model forms > > * Automatic named scopes > > * Miscellaneous model extensions > > * Controllers and routing > > * The Rapid tag library > > * Rich types > > * Users and authentication > > * Subsites > > * Migration generator > > > What priority would you suggest? > > > Thanks, > > > Owen > > > On Dec 14, 11:31 am, GamaFranco <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm using hobo on Windows since september, and this is just my humble > > > oppinion. > > > > The documentation that was a great help at first was the Agility > > > tutorial. Afaik, most newbies are getting their first impression with > > > hobo through this tutorial. I think it should be kept up to date with > > > the upcoming hobo releases. > > > > But probably, the piece of documentation that may have the biggest > > > impact in the future is the manual. I think that almost every widelly > > > used framework or application relly on well written manuals. > > > > Regards, > > > TF > > > > On Dec 14, 2:50 pm, solars <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately RapidMiner resources are very limited, reason is > > > > (afaik) the name change (former 'yale') and of course that it is > > > > commercial (they want to sell their expensive courses :). > > > > > I don't know of any usegroup, there is a forum afaik on their site. > > > > I'm playing around with it currently (text classification, etc) but > > > > it's a pretty cool tool with a lot of functionality. > > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:39:39AM -0800, Owen wrote: > > > > > > Solars, > > > > > > Love to hear what you are doing with RapidMiner. Data mining, text > > > > > analysis, predictive modeling are other areas we are working on. Be > > > > > great to use Ruby as the interface, just like Google is doing with the > > > > > SketchUp API. > > > > > > Is there a Google group? > > > > > > -Owen > > > > > > On Dec 14, 9:29 am, solars <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Owen, > > > > > > > Kudos to you for using all this on a win32 platform, I remember I > > > > > > had _a lot_ of problems running rails or ruby apps on windows, > > > > > > sometimes. But maybe I just don't have the patience, being used to > > > > > > linux. > > > > > > > Glad to hear you want to try JRuby! That's pretty cool, I'm already > > > > > > using it (interfacing with Rapidminer, a java datamining app). It's > > > > > > really cool, especially since the whole business world is totally > > > > > > focused on java. > > > > > > > I did not yet try rails on jruby - but well, now that you mention > > > > > > it, why not :) > > > > > > > I can imagine the pushback you are facing when using something like > > > > > > ruby or rails in the business world. Although I'm don't have much to > > > > > > do with it, we are encountering it a lot at university. I don't > > > > > > understand it, it's like things other than Java or similar > > > > > > business standards don't even exist and are evil - without a real > > > > > > reason. > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:13:31AM -0800, Owen wrote: > > > > > > > > Solars, > > > > > > > > Yes, you are right, we are required to use Windows on the > > > > > > > desktop, so > > > > > > > we help Tom and James with debugging issues there. We wish the > > > > > > > Windows > > > > > > > E-Text Editor was as good as TextMate, but what can you do? > > > > > > > > We are also required to run production apps on Enterprise Redhat > > > > > > > Linux, and have both MySQL and Oracle databases connected to Hobo. > > > > > > > Oracle might not seem important to most is other countries, but > > > > > > > it is > > > > > > > still the most used in the US for large applications. > > > > > > > > We hope to soon test Hobo with JRuby, now that JRuby 1.6 works > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > Rails 2.2.2 and has multithreading. We have had a couple of > > > > > > > discussions with the Sun team about this. They seem very > > > > > > > supportive. > > > > > > > > Being able to deploy a Hobo app to an already supported > > > > > > > application > > > > > > > server (e.g, JBoss or GlassFish) helps to bridge the hurdle of > > > > > > > acceptance in the "Enterprise." You won't believe the pushback > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > got from the USDA Operations team about installing the latest > > > > > > > Ruby on > > > > > > > Redhat Linux. Redhat didn't support it! What a joke. Finally our > > > > > > > forward-looking CIO intervened and gave the green light! > > > > > > > > -Owen- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hobo Users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hobousers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
