On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:

> Looks obvious, but is it?
> 
Yes.

> In one hand, we want the capability to reach anywhere we're allowed to from 
> home. OTOH, if anything in my home is reachable from anywhere, we are back to 
> the firewall paradigm. 
> 
Why? You are still back to all the security disadvantages of firewalls - soft 
chewy inside, etc. Reachability does not convey access authorization. Devices 
must either protect themselves directly or delegate that protection to a proxy 
of some sort (*not* necessarily a firewall). 

> There is an alternate model based on L3 overlays that was presented in 
> various places under names such as route projection, community  of interest 
> or on-demand VPNs.
> 
> That model forms dynamic overlays that act as L3 VLANs. Prefixes are no more 
> injected in the main infrastructure but only projected within the overlay. 
> This allows the model to scale with good mobility properties since an overlay 
> separates the locator and the identifier, which BTW can be of different 
> Address Families.
> 
sounds pretty complicated - if it requires manual configuration it may b a 
non-starter.

> I wanted to ask for a BOF in Taipei to discuss that model. Would anyone be 
> interested?
> 
Not enough data here to judge.

> Pascal
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Roger Jørgensen
>> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 2:58 PM
>> To: james woodyatt
>> Cc: [email protected]; Fernando Gont
>> Subject: Re: [homenet] [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 3:18 AM, james woodyatt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> In the context of the HOMENET working group, one imagines that restoring
>> general end-to-end reachability is arguably a worthy goal.  <snip>
>> 
>> +1 :-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
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