On 2/22/13 7:24 AM, Michael Thomas wrote:
joel jaeggli wrote:
On 2/21/13 7:04 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
So, I think what we can observe from the number of readily discoverable security cameras on the internet. was that the real-live requirement was at least partially solved thanks to upnp and dynamic dns registration, is not a geek-only-oddity, survives renumbering, and was for the most part done quite badly. hopefully it can be done better in the future.

I was under the impression that upnp is exactly what we should not be aspiring to, but that we'll get by default (like natv6) if nothing useful happens in ietf.
my point was not that upnp was worth aspiring too. it was that the existence proof for servers in the home is all over the place even in the the state of brokenness.

Mike


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