Hi Michael,

What you wrote below regarding the need for an LCD and entries typed into
a web browser is not quite right.

Our commercial group (Smart Energy Profile 2 in the ZigBee Alliance) has
created well known service names (even some that incorporate unique device
identities) that allow for machine to machine service discovery (no LCDs
and no web browser entries needed).

I would expect that if we can create service name repositories that
utilize DNS-SD names, that other commercial groups can do the same.  If we
can extend this in homenet to service global service names, all the better.

Don


On 3/13/13 5:26 PM, "Michael Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 03/13/2013 05:09 PM, Tim Chown wrote:
>> On 13 Mar 2013, at 23:47, Michael Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/13/2013 03:18 PM, Ray Bellis wrote:
>>>> On 13 Mar 2013, at 17:13, Ted Lemon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 13, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Michael Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I don't have any statistics but it wouldn't shock me to hear that
>>>>>>usb vs.
>>>>>> networked printers are 10:1 more common.
>>>>> It would shock me.   Bonjour printing Just Works.
>>>>>
>>>> It's also the only way I know of to print from an iDevice.
>>>>
>>>> The 2.5 year old HP B110a printer I have at home has never been
>>>>physically connected to a computer.
>>>>
>>>> It has "virtual USB" drivers for Windows, but for everything else
>>>>it's DNS-SD.
>>> What I find most telling is that after 25 years, printers are still
>>>the canonical
>>> example of the "need" for SD. But printers have entire
>>>programs/wizards that
>>> support their existence, so they're really lousy as a canonical
>>>example. It would
>>> be nice for things to attach themselves to my net and not require
>>>their awful apps
>>> to be installed.
>> So you never use music collections on other devices, videos from a
>>video server, or throw your laptop screen to a local plasma display for
>>easy viewing by a group?  Those are just typical examples of common
>>uses.  The problem though is that without manual intervention you only
>>see the services in your local subnet.
>
>Nope. What do I type into with my browser to do all of that? If the
>answer doesn't
>involve my web browser, you've most likely lost me.
>
>We *really* have to keep in mind the lcd here.
>
>Mike, purposeful luddite
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