Hi Ted,
At 05:55 19-09-2013, Ted Lemon wrote:
I think that you are interpreting this document to be something that it is not, and cannot yet be. What this document is is an architecture for the homenet working group—a crib sheet that tells us what we are trying to accomplish. I don't think it's intended to be something that a random person who is not implementing home gateways would find useful. The working group is hoping that subsequent versions of this document will evolve over time, and I think it would be good for the working group to evolve the document into something that meets the goals that you've set out above.

The problem may be that the document uses the word "architecture". The sense I got after reviewing the document was that it was more of a requirements document instead of one about architecture. I may not be implementing home gateways but I would still read the document to understand what assumptions I can make for my IPv6 application. This entails understanding how what the working group is trying to accomplish affects my area of interest. If I look at the document as one about requirements I'll conclude that there isn't anything that has an impact on application technologies.

I agree that it would be good for the working group to evolve the document (see my previous comments about stabilizing the document and having a discussion about unresolved issues). It might have been missed in my comments; what I am saying is that the working group already has the text it needs to get the work done; what's left is some rearrangement and tightening of the text to get a crisp document.

However, I think that if the working group attempts to do that now, two things will happen. First, the working group won't actually get to the work it's supposed to be doing, because completing the architecture document will continue to be an all-consuming effort. Second, the document that is produced will be purely theoretical, not based on actual practice, and probably useless.

Agreed.

That's why I emphasized the it "just works" in my previous comment. I would leave it to the working group to make the trade-offs so that the document is about something that will actually work in practice. I would assess the effort so that it does not turn into an all-consuming one.

So I would like you to consider whether you can accept this restatement of the purpose of the document. Do you feel that this document cannot be of use until it meets the goals you've set out above, or does the different purpose I've expressed here make sense to you? If the latter, can you reconsider your review in light of this new stated purpose for the document? Is part of the problem that the goals of the document are poorly expressed in the document? Given the goals I've stated, do all of your comments still apply, or would you have responded differently to the document if you'd been evaluating it on the basis I'm proposing?

I think that the document can be of use to the working group. The document may not be that clear to people from outside the area. I guess that the problem may be, as mentioned above, the goals of the document. If the document is a (Informational) crib sheet I would rate it as good enough.

It's unfair of me to submit such a review at this late stage. I have not taken into consideration the amount of effort involved in getting the draft this far. I'll defer to the document shepherd (or you).

Regards,
S. Moonesamy
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