Hi Alia,

On Aug 5, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Alia Atlas 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Mikael,

On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Toerless Eckert (eckert) wrote:

Still sucks to tweak a routing protocol design for a broken l2 design (only 
unicast reliability provided for).

In November 2014 when I asked the IETF upper "brass" and the IEEE liasion to 
tell IEEE that they need to make multicast and broadcast work on wifi because 
most L3 protocols rely on it, including IPv4 and IPv6.

I don't know what happened after that, I didn't hear anything back. I asked 
multiple times.

This is the first I've heard of your personal concern.

I had sent E-mails to Eric Gray and Glenn Parsons at least twice on this topic 
but didn’t receive a response. Eric seems to be the correct contact: 
http://www.ietf.org/liaison/managers.html

I guess we will need a formal liaison.

Thanks,
Acee



However, the need to have multicast protocols work
better did come up when we recently rechartered PIM.  That turned into
"4) Optimization approaches for IGMP and MLD to adapt to link conditions in 
wireless and mobile networks and be more robust to packet loss."

There is a draft that I noticed was recently
published 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcbride-mboned-wifi-mcast-problem-statement/

I think that the issues need to be clearly articulated to hand work over to 
IEEE.

Regards,

I pinged them again just now, replying to the previous "ping" email on this 
issue from March 2015.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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