Ralf Weber <d...@fl1ger.de> wrote:
> Moin!
> On 2 Mar 2019, at 1:14, Michael Richardson wrote:
>> I personally do not believe that Home Router firmware update practices
have
>> significantly improved. I would welcome more recent data: is anyone
>> collecting this on a regular basis? I suspect that 90% of firmware
updates
>> occur because the (integrated) modem is replaced in order to upgrade
>> bandwidth.
> So you think this is a problem.
I'm saying that the devices are not getting updates, even ISP provided
ones.
>> For the last 10 to 15 years the ISP-provided home router has come to
>> dominate
>> the market, with the belief by the ISPs that this is a MUST that they
>> control
>> the device. Many (but not all) at the IETF do not share this view, but
>> most
>> non-technical users see the ISP provided router is simply saving the trip
>> to
>> BestBuy, rather than an abdication of control over their home.
> And I agree with most of the non-technical end users there. An ISP
provided
> router does get updates and in case of problems I can call them and
I do not observe ISP provided modems to get updates.
>> net neutrality debate and the desire my ISPs for a cut of the
over-top-pie.
>> My answer is that the consumer should be in control, and that ISPs need
to
>> get out of the home router business entirely.
> I agree that customers should be in control, and they are now as in most
> countries you can choose between an ISP provided routers or buy one at
your
> convenience. I do not see how less choice (only non ISP provided routers)
> will make this better especially as ISP provided and often managed routers
> are usually updated and taken care of by the ISP in case of problems.
There are quite a number of services in Canada where the ISP provided
modem/router combo has no way to go into a layer-2 only mode. Or it's very
hard to figure out, or the ISP disdains all notions of supporting you.
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