Mikael Abrahamsson <[email protected]> writes: > On Fri, 1 Mar 2019, Michael Richardson wrote: > >> For the last 10 to 15 years the ISP-provided home router has come to >> dominate the market, with the belief by the ISPs that this is a MUST >> that they control the device. Many (but not all) at the IETF do not >> share this view, but most non-technical users see the ISP provided >> router is simply saving the trip to BestBuy, rather than an >> abdication of control over their home. If this trend continues, then >> I believe that ISPs (residential IAPs) will come to want to control >> all IoT devices in the home -- because security -- telling >> residential customers what they can and not connect. > > I have data from some ISPs here pointing to 1% of the customers > setting the media converter/router into bridge mode and providing > their own HGW. Most people just keep whatever the ISP provided them > with. Looking at the SSIDs I see, typically people don't even change > the SSIDs/passwords from what came out of the box. > > A multi-router home isn't on the product managers radar. Their biggest > issue right now, is customers complaining about bad service and most > of the time this is related to bad wifi for the last 0-30 meters of > access to the end-user device. > > If HOMENET somehow could help solve that problem (diagnosing bad wifi > and helping the ISP/customer figure out what's wrong and what needs to > be done) then HOMENET might get onto the radar and be of interest. > > The good thing is that the HGW is going from an unloved cost-cut > necessity into a more important device that is a lot higher end > device. It's gone from a 2-4MB flash / 16 MB RAM device, to nowadays > often having 128-512MB RAM and 32-128MB flash (or even more). It now > also is more likely to have aN ARM processor which is several times > faster than the devices of 5-10 years ago. A negative though, is that > it's also very likely to contain a packet accelerator that is quite > constrained in what it can and can't do acceleration of. This might > make some use-cases harder to achieve. Speeds have gone up and > nowadays having 4x4 wifi chips in there that'll in practice support > actual transport payload speeds of upwards of 1 gigabit/s on wifi > isn't uncommon. We're also now seeing devices with even higher port > speeds than 1GE, but that might take a bit longer to reach wider > adoption.
Since you seem to be pretty up to date on the ISP-level CPE offerings, just out of curiosity: Do any of these fancy ARM boxes include actual fixes for bufferbloat? :) -Toke _______________________________________________ homenet mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet
