On Fri, 1 Mar 2019, Michael Richardson wrote:

For the last 10 to 15 years the ISP-provided home router has come to dominate
the market, with the belief by the ISPs that this is a MUST that they control
the device.  Many (but not all) at the IETF do not share this view, but most
non-technical users see the ISP provided router is simply saving the trip to
BestBuy, rather than an abdication of control over their home.   If this
trend continues, then I believe that ISPs (residential IAPs) will come to
want to control all IoT devices in the home -- because security -- telling
residential customers what they can and not connect.

I have data from some ISPs here pointing to 1% of the customers setting the media converter/router into bridge mode and providing their own HGW. Most people just keep whatever the ISP provided them with. Looking at the SSIDs I see, typically people don't even change the SSIDs/passwords from what came out of the box.

A multi-router home isn't on the product managers radar. Their biggest issue right now, is customers complaining about bad service and most of the time this is related to bad wifi for the last 0-30 meters of access to the end-user device.

If HOMENET somehow could help solve that problem (diagnosing bad wifi and helping the ISP/customer figure out what's wrong and what needs to be done) then HOMENET might get onto the radar and be of interest.

The good thing is that the HGW is going from an unloved cost-cut necessity into a more important device that is a lot higher end device. It's gone from a 2-4MB flash / 16 MB RAM device, to nowadays often having 128-512MB RAM and 32-128MB flash (or even more). It now also is more likely to have aN ARM processor which is several times faster than the devices of 5-10 years ago. A negative though, is that it's also very likely to contain a packet accelerator that is quite constrained in what it can and can't do acceleration of. This might make some use-cases harder to achieve. Speeds have gone up and nowadays having 4x4 wifi chips in there that'll in practice support actual transport payload speeds of upwards of 1 gigabit/s on wifi isn't uncommon. We're also now seeing devices with even higher port speeds than 1GE, but that might take a bit longer to reach wider adoption.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: [email protected]

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