> The 8th partial is NEVER going to be out of tune. It can't be  
> because the
> frequency of a standing wave is determined by LENGTH and never by   
> shape or
> curls or whatever in any tubing.


Hi, If this is the case, what is the deal with, say, cheap tubehorns  
composed of rubber hose or whatever. I'll admit to making a few of  
these in my day, and even to playing some copper tubes at hardware  
stores when I had my mouthpiece on me (college days).

The one thing uniting all these beasts was that the harmonics were  
ridiculously skewed, beyond out of tune.  It is also my understanding  
that one of the major challenges facing a horn maker is getting the  
harmonics - including the "standing wave" ones 1,2,4,8 etc in tune.

How can we reconcile this "fact" with what you are saying, William (or  
any other physic gurus out there)

Curiously yours,
Marc
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