Hi Richard,

Are we still in the April 1st spoof season or do you really mean  
"obscure and unknown"?

I wish I'd had a $ for every time I'd played it rather than each time  
I've seen it called the above.

Before I left the UK it was considered, alongside Dvorak 8, a youth  
orchestra piece and I have about 8 recordings,
none by "obscure" artists and orchestras.

Nor is it new parts and copies which give turn-over difficulties. I  
remember taking scissors into rehearsals to
cut pages in half so that I could turn at a more convenient time than  
was given by the publisher.

Easter Greetings to all,

Ralph R. Hall


On 3 Apr 2010, at 08:28, Richard V. West wrote:

> My apologies for double posting, but I can't recall which list had a
> recent discussion of  Dukas' Sorcerer's Apprentice and attendant  
> problems.
>
> Our orchestra has just begun rehearsals on that obscure and unknown
> work, the Franck D minor Symphony :-). The music is "courtesy of  
> Kalmus"
> and I noticed that it was a copy of the original French edition,  
> notated
> just like the Sorcerer's Apprentice (1st and 2nd on the same page). I
> also noticed that it has the same lousy, badly placed page turns as  
> the
> Dukas, which was recently discussed on one of the lists.
>
> Looking at it during the first rehearsal and muttering to myself, I  
> had
> an epiphany: it was not the original publisher's fault. My guess is  
> that
> in order to use less paper, or out of sheer carelessness,  Kalmus  
> simply
> copied the original parts from the outside rather than inside.  
> Confused?
> What I mean is that if you left the first page blank (probably had the
> title on it), and started on the inside left page, with the next  
> page on
> the right facing it when propped on the music stand, the rests would
> come in the right place. I recopied the Franck that way and it works
> beautifully except for one page turn. Did it on the Dukas, and it  
> isn't
> absolutely perfect (sometimes there's only one bar rest) but it is
> certainly more feasible then the Kalmus version.
>
> By the way, I agree about that passage in the Dukas between 49 and 50.
> It is truly tough. It took me a lot of work to get it accurately up to
> speed. Well...at least up to speed! The second horn was about to  
> give up
> and take up the kazoo.
>
> Apropos echo horn in the Dukas, I'm curious to know how you all do it.
> It's relatively rare in the literature, so there aren't a lot of
> opportunities to do it. I played it by hand stopping the horn about  
> 3/4
> or so to lower the tone a 1/2 step and fingering the passage a 1/2  
> step
> higher to play the written pitch. Are there other ways?
>
> Richard in Seattle
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