Greetings Everyone! As I am awaiting my second service this Easter Morning, I read Ralph and Hans' back and forth about poor page turns and I thought I would add my 2 cents worth about parts from Luck's. Their parts are quite often bad for page turns. In fact, I sarcastically call them "Luck's page turns".
Walt Lewis Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Hall <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:05:01 To: The Horn List<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Reprint Parts Hans, Point taken, but I am talking about some years ago and with the permission of the orchestral librarian! Of course rented parts were sacrosanct. Easter Greetings, Ralph On 3 Apr 2010, at 10:59, Hans Pizka wrote: > Ralph, > do you know how much your scissory will cost the orchestra, if the > parts are rented ? > Today it is not a problem, to copy the relevant page (only), to make > an easier page turn. > #################################################################### > Am 03.04.2010 um 10:28 schrieb Ralph Hall: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> Are we still in the April 1st spoof season or do you really mean >> "obscure and unknown"? >> >> I wish I'd had a $ for every time I'd played it rather than each time >> I've seen it called the above. >> >> Before I left the UK it was considered, alongside Dvorak 8, a youth >> orchestra piece and I have about 8 recordings, >> none by "obscure" artists and orchestras. >> >> Nor is it new parts and copies which give turn-over difficulties. I >> remember taking scissors into rehearsals to >> cut pages in half so that I could turn at a more convenient time than >> was given by the publisher. >> >> Easter Greetings to all, >> >> Ralph R. Hall >> >> >> On 3 Apr 2010, at 08:28, Richard V. West wrote: >> >>> My apologies for double posting, but I can't recall which list had a >>> recent discussion of Dukas' Sorcerer's Apprentice and attendant >>> problems. >>> >>> Our orchestra has just begun rehearsals on that obscure and unknown >>> work, the Franck D minor Symphony :-). The music is "courtesy of >>> Kalmus" >>> and I noticed that it was a copy of the original French edition, >>> notated >>> just like the Sorcerer's Apprentice (1st and 2nd on the same >>> page). I >>> also noticed that it has the same lousy, badly placed page turns as >>> the >>> Dukas, which was recently discussed on one of the lists. >>> >>> Looking at it during the first rehearsal and muttering to myself, I >>> had >>> an epiphany: it was not the original publisher's fault. My guess is >>> that >>> in order to use less paper, or out of sheer carelessness, Kalmus >>> simply >>> copied the original parts from the outside rather than inside. >>> Confused? >>> What I mean is that if you left the first page blank (probably had >>> the >>> title on it), and started on the inside left page, with the next >>> page on >>> the right facing it when propped on the music stand, the rests would >>> come in the right place. I recopied the Franck that way and it works >>> beautifully except for one page turn. Did it on the Dukas, and it >>> isn't >>> absolutely perfect (sometimes there's only one bar rest) but it is >>> certainly more feasible then the Kalmus version. >>> >>> By the way, I agree about that passage in the Dukas between 49 and >>> 50. >>> It is truly tough. It took me a lot of work to get it accurately >>> up to >>> speed. Well...at least up to speed! The second horn was about to >>> give up >>> and take up the kazoo. >>> >>> Apropos echo horn in the Dukas, I'm curious to know how you all do >>> it. >>> It's relatively rare in the literature, so there aren't a lot of >>> opportunities to do it. I played it by hand stopping the horn about >>> 3/4 >>> or so to lower the tone a 1/2 step and fingering the passage a 1/2 >>> step >>> higher to play the written pitch. Are there other ways? >>> >>> Richard in Seattle >>> _______________________________________________ >>> post: [email protected] >>> unsubscribe or set options at >>> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/ralph%40brasshausmusic.com >> >> Ralph R. Hall >> [email protected] >> Ralph R. Hall >> http://www.brasshausmusic.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/ralph%40brasshausmusic.com Ralph R. Hall [email protected] Ralph R. Hall http://www.brasshausmusic.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
