Hans,

Point taken, but I am talking about some years ago and with the  
permission of the orchestral librarian!
Of course rented parts were sacrosanct.

Easter Greetings, Ralph
On 3 Apr 2010, at 10:59, Hans Pizka wrote:

> Ralph,
> do you know how much your scissory will cost the orchestra, if the  
> parts are rented ?
> Today it is not a problem, to copy the relevant page (only), to make  
> an easier page turn.
> ####################################################################
> Am 03.04.2010 um 10:28 schrieb Ralph Hall:
>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Are we still in the April 1st spoof season or do you really mean
>> "obscure and unknown"?
>>
>> I wish I'd had a $ for every time I'd played it rather than each time
>> I've seen it called the above.
>>
>> Before I left the UK it was considered, alongside Dvorak 8, a youth
>> orchestra piece and I have about 8 recordings,
>> none by "obscure" artists and orchestras.
>>
>> Nor is it new parts and copies which give turn-over difficulties. I
>> remember taking scissors into rehearsals to
>> cut pages in half so that I could turn at a more convenient time than
>> was given by the publisher.
>>
>> Easter Greetings to all,
>>
>> Ralph R. Hall
>>
>>
>> On 3 Apr 2010, at 08:28, Richard V. West wrote:
>>
>>> My apologies for double posting, but I can't recall which list had a
>>> recent discussion of  Dukas' Sorcerer's Apprentice and attendant
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> Our orchestra has just begun rehearsals on that obscure and unknown
>>> work, the Franck D minor Symphony :-). The music is "courtesy of
>>> Kalmus"
>>> and I noticed that it was a copy of the original French edition,
>>> notated
>>> just like the Sorcerer's Apprentice (1st and 2nd on the same  
>>> page). I
>>> also noticed that it has the same lousy, badly placed page turns as
>>> the
>>> Dukas, which was recently discussed on one of the lists.
>>>
>>> Looking at it during the first rehearsal and muttering to myself, I
>>> had
>>> an epiphany: it was not the original publisher's fault. My guess is
>>> that
>>> in order to use less paper, or out of sheer carelessness,  Kalmus
>>> simply
>>> copied the original parts from the outside rather than inside.
>>> Confused?
>>> What I mean is that if you left the first page blank (probably had  
>>> the
>>> title on it), and started on the inside left page, with the next
>>> page on
>>> the right facing it when propped on the music stand, the rests would
>>> come in the right place. I recopied the Franck that way and it works
>>> beautifully except for one page turn. Did it on the Dukas, and it
>>> isn't
>>> absolutely perfect (sometimes there's only one bar rest) but it is
>>> certainly more feasible then the Kalmus version.
>>>
>>> By the way, I agree about that passage in the Dukas between 49 and  
>>> 50.
>>> It is truly tough. It took me a lot of work to get it accurately  
>>> up to
>>> speed. Well...at least up to speed! The second horn was about to
>>> give up
>>> and take up the kazoo.
>>>
>>> Apropos echo horn in the Dukas, I'm curious to know how you all do  
>>> it.
>>> It's relatively rare in the literature, so there aren't a lot of
>>> opportunities to do it. I played it by hand stopping the horn about
>>> 3/4
>>> or so to lower the tone a 1/2 step and fingering the passage a 1/2
>>> step
>>> higher to play the written pitch. Are there other ways?
>>>
>>> Richard in Seattle
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>> Ralph R. Hall
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>> Ralph R. Hall
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