William,

I'm determined not to go down the road of gratuitous insults but if we  
are to draw the line somewhere it ought to be the common ground  
between us. Unfortunately I can't find any.

The uninformed and uninformative way you write leaves any respondent  
with only assumptions. Unfortunately, it's rather difficult to get to  
know you through your contributions to the list but any horn player,  
amateur or professional, who says it is not that difficult to play  
musically......well, definitely enough said.

Ralph

On 22 May 2010, at 20:46, [email protected] wrote:

>
> I'll take this a paragraph at a time.
>
> 1) No it wasn't. All it was was a short statement - which was  
> unsupported by anything. It was the same as saying 'because I said  
> so'. Well I'm not satisfied with that. I want to know why.
>
> Second, I'm well aware of the concept of 'who might be listening'  
> when I play. That's why I try to play my very best whenever I can.
>
> 2) I don't make a living out of playing the horn. If someone wants  
> to hire me because of my playing ability, great. If they want to  
> fire me because I'm honest, whatever. I'd rather be honest than a  
> sycophant.
>
> 3) No it is not. Assumptions assumptions, friend. I'm saying that  
> compared to some jobs out there ours is very cushy. It's not that  
> difficult to play MUSICALLY well. I'm not talking about technique  
> alone.
>
> 4 and 5) I've played with a few great players myself and I've been  
> able to keep up. All I hear out of you are assumptions about me, and  
> not one bit of truth because you never took the time to actually  
> know me.
>
> If it's people like you who are going to somehow waste the time to  
> seek me out and do all of these things then let them. I've been  
> treated by worse before and it's no skin off of my back.
>
> When someone judges me negatively because they took the time to get  
> to know me and to listen, then I'll take notice.
>
> Until then, thanks for playing.
>
> -William
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Hall <[email protected]>
> To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 5:04 am
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Alternative to auditions in an amatuer setting
>
>
> William,
>
> Paul Navarro's reply was good enough - but I've had enough. If you
> don't realise by now that every time you take the instrument out of
> its case you're taking an audition - well, the word naive is the only
> appropriate one. You don't know who might be listening, and looking,
> and on that one acquaintance you might be judged as a player.
>
> Another word of advice, although I suspect it might fall on deaf ears:
> there are professional players who read the horn list and it would not
> take great detective work to find out who this opinionated player is
> and to discount him for any permanent/extra work.
>
> Additionally you condemn yourself by belittling general repertoire,
> orchestral horn parts. You must be talking technique and nothing else.
> If this is the sum total of your musicality...........................
>
> I played one season of first, when I was at college. I was realistic
> enough to see myself as a stop-gap until a better player arrived. The
> bench mark had been set, two years before, by Tony Halstead. However,
> my kick has always been as a good second horn to these people and if
> you come off the stage having kept pace with someone like Tony,
> perfect ensemble, intonation, being solid and neither distracting nor
> competitive, well then you have achieved much and played very well.
> For your information, I find Haydn and Mozart parts the most difficult
> to play really well - and consequently the most rewarding. Nor am I
> talking about 25 in G, 29 in A, 31 in D, 45 in F sharp minor, 55 in
> Eb, 92 in G etc. If you don't know the attribution, enough said.
>
> My impression is that you would be a Trojan horse in any section, in
> my experience a situation most professionals would seek to avoid.
>
> Ralph R. hall
>
> On 22 May 2010, at 05:27, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>> How? Care to elaborate?
>>
>> -William
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 10:58 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Alternative to auditions in an amatuer  
>> setting
>>
>>
>> William wrote
>>
>> "Granted, in real jobs you don't have to re-apply for your own
>> position
>> - but you do have to face re-evaluations every now and then. "
>>
>>
>>
>> This statement above  indicates a stunning level of naivete about
>> professional  performance.
>>
>> Paul Navarro
>>
>>
>>
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