Well, in my case it is a difference of skill.  I know after hearing the good
ones play that I ain't one of 'em.  I do find a great deal of enjoyment as
4th sometimes 3rd.   

-----Original Message-----
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Of [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 1:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Alternative to auditions in an amatuer setting


 Sorry, but the difference between an amateur and a pro is NOT skill. It's
whether they choose to make a living out of it.

I can think of several examples of amateurs who are better than some pros.

-William

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Pizka <[email protected]>
To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 9:16 am
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Alternative to auditions in an amatuer setting


It is necessary, Larry, to call a bunch of amateurs from their dreams back
to real world. And, what you (I mean the community of amateurs) often think
to be a good player, wow,  within your community ??????? My nephew is also a
very good conservatory studied violinist, was national champion of Taek Won
Do, but is a world class Informatic (IT) man, doctorate summa cum laude,
owns & commands successfully a special software company. When he studied in
the USA, he played with several amateur symphonies as guest concert master.
He told me about their concerts ............

There are very engaged amateurs out, and amateurs who could be in very good
orchestras, but did not make it a living for whatever circumstances. But I
speak now to the other big mouth amateurs: 

Be happy that we as professionals devote our time to teach you "how to hold
the horn, where to put right or left hand, how to pucker a decent note, or
where to find the way out or the way even to the restroom". Be happy. 

How said the captain to the private: "If you dont like to integrate yourself
to the existing organism, buy yourself a cannon & make your own army."

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Am 22.05.2010 um 12:56 schrieb Larry Jellison:

> Hans, want this topic thread to end?  Well, then get out of it, and 
> the other
pros get out of it, too.  This thread was about an amateur ensemble issue,
the seating of musicians.  The originator of the thread is actually a much
better horn player than the person sitting in the principal position of the
ensemble she was writing about, and in her modesty she did not claim herself
to this list to be such.  You pros have your own issues, and we understand
that your work environment is extremely competitive and tense.  
> 
> I find the criticisms of William to be way over the top.  He stated 
> that he
has another day job (not as a horn player), and thus can play without the
pressures of a pro.  Paul, in particular, is toxic and hasn't contributed a
worthwhile comment to the thread.  I suggest you pros stay on your own topic
threads if you can't maintain the integrity of the thread topic as
presented, as you have highjacked this topic to vent your own pet peeves.
> 
> Regards,
> Larry
> 
> 
> 
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