Yes, but it was the Chinese in their long ranging wisdom that taught, "one
picture is worth a thousand words." 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Hans Pizka
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 3:06 AM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horn Digest, Vol 89, Issue 34

Many people have a hard time visualizing things. We are spoiled by the mass
media which explain everything over & over (right is where the thumb points
to the left if the hands upper side points upwards, but left in this
experiment is where  .... well, it does not work ..
if one does not know where right & left are .... ):

here we go, the brass stopping mute has a ring attached on the body. You can
attach a cord or thin leather loop of about 16" total length, depends on
your hand size, so you can pull that loop over the wrist of your right hand.
The stop mute is at hand then for quick action. It also can be hung on your
music stand. The same action can be performed with the old conical mute for
"con sord." passages without preceding rests. You also can grab the conical
mute with your hand, insert it fully for muted or pull it out a bit so your
sound is like open.
Try it. You also might use the conical mute for the "gestopft", if you play
the relevant notes a bit sharper (in expression, not regarding intonation
!) as usual. The "stop mute", pulled out a bit will allow open-like sounds
at such spots. Experiment a bit. If composers write such nonsens (read other
postings), they deserve that we camouflage. It does not matter, HOW you
produce it. Everything is allowed, if the audible result is right.

The "echo - trick" is simple. You do not need to make yourself a horn-sack,
but you can do it. Buy the cloth of about 65 x 80 cms, usually shiny black,
buy yourself a sewing machine, if you have not. Fold the cloth to the
reverse side, sew the one longer side to create place for a cord pulled
through  .... forget that.

Just seal the borders of the cloth. BTW, you would just need 16"x32". You
have the perfect knee cover now. 
In case you need to play an echo sound, roll the cloth together like a
children ball to be inserted into the bell ..... forget that also.

Just look around at toy stations in the department store or children store,
find a cloth ball of 4" diameter.
Use that for the "echo sound".

I hope, you can visualize that and use my recommendations.
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Am 30.05.2010 um 21:50 schrieb valerie wells:

> Please, please keep the stories coming, Milton!  They are fascinating.
> Equally fascinating is Hans's story of using various means for 
> stopping.  I wish I could see a picture.  I'm having a hard time
visualizing it.
> 
>> If you guys and gals don't like me posting the stories, then let me 
>> know
> and I will gladly stop.<
> 
> 
> Valerie Wells
> http://www.beforhorn.blogspot.com/
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