Hans, Apropos the echo horn effect, I was taught to produce it by partially stopping the horn---that is, closing off the bell about 7/8 with the hand so that it lowers the pitch a half-step---and fingering the passage (such as in Dukas' Sorcerer's Apprentice) a half-step higher. It works for me and is simple, but is the use of a cloth ball the time-honored tradition? It would certainly eliminate the need for transposing.
Or is it another example of "whatever works, do it"? Richard in Seattle On 5/31/2010 4:22 AM, Hans Pizka wrote: > You cannot make it right for everyone, one likes white poodles, the other > black, one > likes pictures, the other likes text, some need pictures plus text but do not > understand > pictures or/and text. > > Conclusion, there is no help for everyone even intended to be. > > Another Chinese wisdom: > > "fixed parities between the currencies to eliminate speculation" > or > "one currency for the world, also to extinguish speculation" > (we would lose a part of our identity, but it would be worth). > > Nice coins as in the past (18th/19th cent.) will not come back anyway. > > ################################################################### > Am 31.05.2010 um 13:00 schrieb Bill Gross: > > >> Yes, but it was the Chinese in their long ranging wisdom that taught, "one >> picture is worth a thousand words." >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Hans Pizka >> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 3:06 AM >> To: The Horn List >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horn Digest, Vol 89, Issue 34 >> >> Many people have a hard time visualizing things. We are spoiled by the mass >> media which explain everything over& over (right is where the thumb points >> to the left if the hands upper side points upwards, but left in this >> experiment is where .... well, it does not work .. >> if one does not know where right& left are .... ): >> >> here we go, the brass stopping mute has a ring attached on the body. You can >> attach a cord or thin leather loop of about 16" total length, depends on >> your hand size, so you can pull that loop over the wrist of your right hand. >> The stop mute is at hand then for quick action. It also can be hung on your >> music stand. The same action can be performed with the old conical mute for >> "con sord." passages without preceding rests. You also can grab the conical >> mute with your hand, insert it fully for muted or pull it out a bit so your >> sound is like open. >> Try it. You also might use the conical mute for the "gestopft", if you play >> the relevant notes a bit sharper (in expression, not regarding intonation >> !) as usual. The "stop mute", pulled out a bit will allow open-like sounds >> at such spots. Experiment a bit. If composers write such nonsens (read other >> postings), they deserve that we camouflage. It does not matter, HOW you >> produce it. Everything is allowed, if the audible result is right. >> >> The "echo - trick" is simple. You do not need to make yourself a horn-sack, >> but you can do it. Buy the cloth of about 65 x 80 cms, usually shiny black, >> buy yourself a sewing machine, if you have not. Fold the cloth to the >> reverse side, sew the one longer side to create place for a cord pulled >> through .... forget that. >> >> Just seal the borders of the cloth. BTW, you would just need 16"x32". You >> have the perfect knee cover now. >> In case you need to play an echo sound, roll the cloth together like a >> children ball to be inserted into the bell ..... forget that also. >> >> Just look around at toy stations in the department store or children store, >> find a cloth ball of 4" diameter. >> Use that for the "echo sound". >> >> I hope, you can visualize that and use my recommendations. >> ############################################################################ >> ###### >> Am 30.05.2010 um 21:50 schrieb valerie wells: >> >> >>> Please, please keep the stories coming, Milton! They are fascinating. >>> Equally fascinating is Hans's story of using various means for >>> stopping. I wish I could see a picture. I'm having a hard time >>> >> visualizing it. >> >>> >>>> If you guys and gals don't like me posting the stories, then let me >>>> know >>>> >>> and I will gladly stop.< >>> >>> >>> Valerie Wells >>> http://www.beforhorn.blogspot.com/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> post: [email protected] >>> unsubscribe or set options at >>> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.c >>> om >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/william.s.gross%40g >> mail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com >> > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hornfella%40comcast.net > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2907 - Release Date: 05/30/10 > 11:25:00 > > _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
