Precisely said. It is the truth. I remember a gentleman contacting me about 
getting a lesson. 
When he appeared after a long train ride, he first told me about all pieces he 
had played
with various orchestras: Mahler 8 & 5 & 2, Heldenleben, Bruckner 4 & 7, 
Siegfrieds Rheinfahrt,
Beethoven 9th, Till etc. So I asked him to play the Oberon beginning for me. He 
tried it many
times but could not find the beginning "a1" ..... but big mouth. Another 
fellow, who recorded
several quite nice CDs, writes in his resume in the booklet, that he were guest 
with Vienna Phil 
& my orchestra. The truth is that he played in the stage band of the Alpine 
Symph in  .....
with the Vienna Phil & I called him to be assistant for Franz Schmidts No.2 
Symph. - but is is
suggesting that he was a guest soloist according to the wordings. Others, who 
came for a lesson, 
were not able to keep a strict 6/8 rhythm when playing Mozart no.3 third 
movement for me ....
Another fellow in Japan (masterclass) had all the slides full in, so I asked 
him (he was out of tune
completely) why and he replied his idol were Z.Tylsar, who had all the slides 
in .....

But all they have something in common: big mouth & no sense for reality.

Conductors of amateur ensembles ? Really a problem, a big problem but with some 
few 
positive exceptions. Mostly, these "pult-schinders" have just one thing in 
mind: acting as a despot.
No idea about the great interpretations by their famous colleagues. Yes and no. 
They listen to 
these recordings, conducting along, perhaps in front of a big mirror, but lose 
the right track
after a few measures. They cannot lead an ensemble. They lack the fantasy to 
explain
the music with the right words as could Carlos Kleiber or Herbert von Karajan.

Yeah, there is another big problem with amateur orchestras: members like 
different
recordings. So they, even not qualified enough fiddlers or winds themselves, 
try to play 
after their own imagination without listening to the front, the back, to the 
right or to the left, nor
following the beat.

Sorry, it is that way. To cure that, there is just one way: recognize the 
leader &  follow
him or her, synchronize yourself with the beat, listen to the others. You will 
enjoy much better.

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Am 04.04.2011 um 07:12 schrieb Larry Jellison:

> I can't control myself any longer from asking this question, after reading 
> all 
> these suggestions about the irritating clarinet player.
> 
> The question:  What bugs you the most about playing in an amateur ensemble?
> 
> For me, it is the conductor who is happy to see anyone walk in with a French 
> horn, and welcomes them without auditioning them or questioning them about 
> their 
> playing ability.  Often these are ex-trumpet or ex-trombone players, or 
> ex-French horn players just returning to playing and have no embouchure 
> development.  Somehow these "hornists"  think it is just fine for them to 
> join 
> the horn section when they can't play or can barely play.  Why is it that 
> possessing a French horn gives these folks such  immediate chutzpah?  I have 
> resorted to much complaining to the conductors over this.
> 
> Regards,
> Larry
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