Hi Sev and Mark,

Those numbers are difficult, yes. Tomorrow is a little last minute for me, but 
perhaps we can try one more time and move forward regardless of how many people 
are present? The Technical Working Group doesn't always get that many people 
either, so I'm OK with moving forward with a smaller group if you all are.

I'll bring up my prospective agenda item here tomorrow. Bedtime now.

Cheers,
Robert

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From: Mark Cupitt <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:02 PM
To: Severin MENARD <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Robert Banick 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group

Hi Severin, why not just encourage discussion using hackpad for now whilst 
waiting for the meeting to get organized.

https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir

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Mark



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On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Severin Menard 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Robert,

The issue is that there is no super good slot in the new agenda and not 
everyone filled it again. Best so far is only 5 people tomorrow on Thursday at 
8AM GMT (what is not a good time for America), only max 4 people otherwise.
Thoughts?

Sincerely,

Severin


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Banick, Robert 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Sev et al,

Did this ever come together? If so I’d like to add something to the agenda. If 
not can I suggest yet another doodle and a deadline of next Wed. at latest for 
the next meeting? Just to get things moving.

Cheers,
Robert


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From: Nick Allen 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:08 PM
To: Severin Menard
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group

Severin,
Sorry, I was very slow filling in doodle - waited until I heard when the 
communications working group meeting would be. I've added my details now, but I 
will probably not be available when the meeting takes place. I will forward a 
few ideas to you before the meeting if I can't make it.
Regards

Nick

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On 8 May 2014 13:40, Severin Menard 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi again,

Just figuring out this time slot is actually exactly the same than the 
Communication Working Group! As I guess I am not the only one that would like 
to participated to these two WG, so I reopen the 
Doodle<http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i>. Maybe propose everyone will confirm 
there that same day same hour next week will fit.

Sorry for the confusion.

Sincerely,

Seveirn

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Severin Menard 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,

According to the Doodle, the time slot that, by far, suited most of people 
interested by the Activation Working Group is Friday 9 (tomorrow) at 2 PM GMT 
(means 10AM EDT and 4PM CEST), so the meeting on 
Mumble<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble> will happen at that time. 
Here is the 
Hackpad<https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir>. Anyone 
interested, please join!

Sincerely,

Severin

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Severin Menard 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi all,

Among the reactivated Working Groups, here is the Activation Working Group. 
Activations are more and more numerous and successful with a increasing number 
of contributors. The results are really impressive, but we can certainly do 
even better.

As for the Communication Working group (for those interested, please fill ASAP 
its Doodle<http://doodle.com/3545epmy63x72gvk>) we could start with a kick-off 
meeting on Mumble<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble>, and here is a 
Doodle to set it:

http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i <http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i>

This meeting and the ones that will follow aim at being a time to exchange on 
this thrilling topic, review the experiences, documents, procedures and set 
goals to be achieved for the next meeting. Because yes, a Working Group is a 
group that works, that means between the meetings. And actually, it is already 
happening: eg there are (more and more) people working on data validation, both 
through setting procedures and monitoring the freshly created data.

I see 4 main topics around the Activation (but would be pleased to get other 
suggestions):

1. All the activities and documents involved in an Activation. In the past the 
Activation Working Groups mostly focused on how Activations are triggered and 
start, what we could review based on the last experiences. Crisis monitoring is 
certainly something we could add, in order not to forget crisis of smaller 
range or simply not highly covered by the medias. Also technical aspects like: 
define and prioritize AOIs (Areas of Interests) and mapping goals, track and 
monitor the mapping progresses, and set thin, flexible and efficient processes, 
tools, and wiki templates, etc. But also share and document how to maintain and 
even grow the contribution of the OSM contributors and communities, by 
communicating with them (like this Working Group will do), proposing more 
different kinds of tasks to do or setting joint events.

2. The beneficiaries, that means the humanitarian stakeholders. We need both to 
make them aware of the data we produce and to make the data useful and easy to 
use for them, taking more into account their needs, constraints and tools. I 
got recent feedback from the GIS officers in the UN that I will share.

3. The data. What needs to be mapped is quite known, but how to do it to make 
it as clean and efficient as possible. That links to the mapping instructions 
and the 
validation<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data>
 but also to how the data can be reused by the humanitarian stakeholders. There 
a lot of potential improvements to propose not only raw data but eg thematic 
dataset, what the HOT Exports can already potentially provide (in link with the 
Technical Working Group).

4. Last, but really not least is to make more OSM contributors know about the 
procedures and tools used to map, monitor, communicate and activate an OSM 
community, and expand the number of contributors in the Activations, according 
to everyone's interest(s). This implies connecting with local OSM communities 
when possible, talk with them and provide them documentation and online 
training. Eg in Lubumbashi after Jorieke's stay, the contact with the local OSM 
community has been maintained and voluntary online training has been and will 
be provided through Mumble. So now, they are continuing the mapping (see 
https://twitter.com/OSM_L) and will take an active part on the Mapping in 
London on Saturday. And if ever a crisis unfortunately hits Lubumbashi in the 
future, they will be able to trigger the worldwide OSM community


Exciting, isn't it? And actually a lot of topics and sub-topics. And some are 
certainly missing. This is why this Activation Working Group will not need one 
leader but several facilitators, who, by their experience, skills and will, 
will make things go ahead on the topic(s) they care.

Let us make things move on and activate the AWG!

Sincerely,

Severin




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