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Heather On May 4, 2015 8:02 AM, "Prabhas Pokharel" <[email protected]> wrote: > Heather, > 2. The dataset was the following > https://data.hdx.rwlabs.org/dataset/nepal-health-facilities-cod > 1. Megha went through and manually matched up health facilities in the > Kathmandu Valley, because KLL has formerly surveyed and created a rigorous > dataset in the valley. A majority of the conflicts in the valley were > deleted. Since the second dataset doesn't have names, match up was done by > location. Please follow up with Megha on the rest. > > If we get a compatible license, the other route we could go through > (instead of re-instanting the changeset) is to do a more rigorous import, > after checking that the health facility locations seem legitimate (not in > forests, near residences, etc.) and not in conflict with existing > facilities with HOT's help. > > cheers, > Prabhas > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Heather Leson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Pierre is sleeping. I would normally ask him and activation. I will >> ask a contact via UN OCHA (offlist) and report back to activation >> >> What I need is: >> 1. Confirmation that the changeset link includes the full dataset (the >> link below ) >> 2. Exact source link for the dataset. >> >> I will ask for a license update. >> >> Does this sound ok? >> >> Heather >> >> The file is >> On May 4, 2015 7:48 AM, "Prabhas Pokharel" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> > A very sad one, but nothing to do >>> > about it, unless the copyright holders let us upload the data to OSM >>> > without that non-commercial restriction. >>> >>> HOT, we must have contacts at UN OCHA, can we start a conversation to >>> ask if they are willing to do it? At the moment, we don't have the >>> bandwidth here at KLL these days to have this conversation. But as I see >>> it, adding POIs and named places onto the map is pretty important to focus >>> on, in parallel with all of the imagery-based work that we are doing. >>> >>> cheers, >>> Prabhas >>> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Rafael Avila Coya <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> Hi, Prabhas: >>>> >>>> I wonder if this data can be incorporated to a local or alternative >>>> database that can be of use in this situation. >>>> >>>> About the field papers, I don't see any problem to use this data as a >>>> guide of finding those health facilities and correctly geolocate them >>>> while surveying on the ground. >>>> >>>> Using the GNS and other place nodes already in the database, it might >>>> be possible to add some of this nodes to OSM. It might. But in any >>>> case, the license is a restriction. A very sad one, but nothing to do >>>> about it, unless the copyright holders let us upload the data to OSM >>>> without that non-commercial restriction. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Rafael. >>>> >>>> On 04/05/15 00:26, Prabhas Pokharel wrote: >>>> > Thank you all; two main issues here: one that the dataset >>>> > geolocations are problematic, and two that the license was >>>> > incompatible. Apologies for incorrectly interpreting the license >>>> > here in Nepal. >>>> > >>>> > As megha said, the reason we attempted this was because the maps >>>> > that HOTOSM volunteers have helped create via tracing for us is >>>> > amazingly detailed (in terms of residential areas, roads, pre-quake >>>> > buildings), but hard to use because of the lack of POIs on the >>>> > ground. This was an attempt to alleviate the problem, but sounds >>>> > like we did misinterpret the license issue, and apologies for >>>> > that. >>>> > >>>> > We simply did not know about the problematic geolocations. However, >>>> > it is worth noting that this dataset is what a lot of organizations >>>> > have been using locally, given that it is the best available >>>> > dataset of health facility locations. >>>> > >>>> > Maybe the discussion we need to have soon is how we can improve >>>> > OSM-based tools (MapOSMatic, Fieldpapers, etc) to incorporate >>>> > datasets like this that are very useful in scenarios like what we >>>> > are going through, but are incompatible to put into OSM because of >>>> > the license. >>>> > >>>> > cheers, Prabhas >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Rafael Avila Coya >>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi all: >>>> > >>>> > Megha (MeghaShrestha), the user that imported these data, has >>>> > answered me through the OSM messaging. She works with the KLL and >>>> > she tells me: "we are trying to create papers for the relief >>>> > workers. The problem being there are enough details like roads, >>>> > buildings, rivers but no POIs in many areas. It is difficult for >>>> > the relief workers to locate themselves on the map. Importing the >>>> > health facilities data was an attempt so that they can at least >>>> > find some POIs they can look for while locating themselves on the >>>> > map. The data I imported was from >>>> > https://data.hdx.rwlabs.org/dataset/nepal-health-facilities-cod. >>>> > The licence says we can use the data for non commercial purpose and >>>> > we need to credit the source. I hope these information are helpful >>>> > and you can help us out." >>>> > >>>> > With this info, I can see that the data is the one we were >>>> > discussing a few days ago, although that data set contained almost >>>> > 9,000 nodes, whereas the one of Megha had around 4,660. >>>> > >>>> > I recall the main problem: geolocation was very poor (most of nodes >>>> > in well out of any settlements). The other problem I see is the >>>> > license: it's for non-commercial use, and that makes it >>>> > incompatible with the OSM license. >>>> > >>>> > I really feel to give a no in such circumstances as these, and >>>> > that's why I ask for more input from other people with experience >>>> > on this, just in case there is any possibility of including the >>>> > data into OSM, and if not what other options we would have to make >>>> > good use of these data set, if any. >>>> > >>>> > Cheers, >>>> > >>>> > Rafael. >>>> > >>>> > On 03/05/15 18:14, Kretzer wrote: >>>> >> When looking at the Gorkha area in #1024 I noticed several nodes >>>> >> tagged as "Hospital" with a lot of information, quoting UNOCHA >>>> >> as source, but obviously in the wrong place, because there is >>>> >> nothing nearby. Like here: >>>> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/28.00839/84.62397 Looks >>>> >> like a mass import that somehow went wrong ... shame, because >>>> >> hospitals are important! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> By the way, I am somewhat confused as to what is that called a >>>> >> "task" now? Is it a single tile (with a #) or is it the whole >>>> >> project? >>>> > >>>> >> _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list >>>> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list >>>> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- Prabhas Pokharel http://prabhasp.com >>>> > twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp >>>> >>>> - -- >>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya >>>> >>>> - -------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, >>>> .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. >>>> >>>> Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. >>>> >>>> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) >>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ >>>> >>>> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVRvhtAAoJEB3niTly2pPQ6rYQAIACG4KEtph2xtxQvywpuEsJ >>>> dJujmsakn1Z2R3Cx6RhbB1cpTtwRB5R08WDeDx6veKh2NjyyoYmBk1gpxam0M8m+ >>>> nZcyixJxn59vMkVHCLh0kKyBBGNnDAPyQC+GBZtPsW04Vd7Zi8qc3rs98CnE3QHP >>>> gHpXfD/xtiMSi/g/Q6MhQ/DNYOQLLyZn9O2F3zg8UWHFTBFcUE544wnOkKmzmoKF >>>> ORyfN5Z3/d8E6GewV48otvl96S1xVikmLqu3AEDDGugU1llBOIpjG1gpF+yIEDtD >>>> Qq5+2iYGqTWoq/k/fVpuORvWaETHYtORzcTjGbul757gwLZYFwJtrgMsnkjf0KiO >>>> flnL3w6Vh5Ysc/imP5P6p76yg5rxRPhuoSdc0H5OJTExH09sZAwrvqOmjULeYTaX >>>> wfltzd8QJmD7WWLSsVnRVNoNXyPkA6EFB0x5zJklAJdELslAZIrV2X0YPB/bbqDT >>>> TJPob34LoicYoXZ0JPt5VbHPYUTZvHq7HJ8bZzaXOrWblPctb4fz7abUHUMEzl/5 >>>> W9KoNx0wJAU1ChJkERV8IxuMwnffwELnw/CUN5p57XJ6PY5vCnuTOPYoScrTwFN4 >>>> lfvwRSoMkDsbcmCPotaXJ+lt2egKAZoqWc9T78qEsOUsf9gB1pF2zfvHmTKBQ500 >>>> 69oFJ/ArvtOAV2hLDBCx >>>> =b93r >>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Prabhas Pokharel >>> http://prabhasp.com >>> twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HOT mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>> > > > -- > Prabhas Pokharel > http://prabhasp.com > twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp >
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