If someone would like to explore the healthcare facilities data, you can use this interactive visualization:
https://api.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/planemad.353be7fb/page.html?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoicGxhbmVtYWQiLCJhIjoiemdYSVVLRSJ9.g3lbg_eN0kztmsfIPxa9MQ#8/27.703/84.279 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Bernadette Williams < [email protected]> wrote: > I just joined this weekend but I have a little bit of experience mapping > data in this region of the world. GIS data I've received in Bangladesh > needed to be projected/transformed from BTM (Bangladesh Transverse > Mercator) to WGS 84. BTM is based on the Everest 1830 geographic coordinate > system. Perhaps this is the same coordinate system being used locally in > Nepal. > > -Bernadette > > On 4 May 2015 at 13:03, Kretzer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Maybe at some point a wrong coordinate system was used for conversion? >> Like from the .shp to .kll. >> (that's usually the reason why my GIS imports end up in the wrong place >> ...) >> >> It would be great if these important data could be of use in the end. >> >> >> Gesendet mit der GMX iPhone App >> >> Am 04.05.15 um 07:51 schrieb Heather Leson >> >> > Hello, my contacts advised that they are following up. A quick note >> that >> > >> > this is a WHO dataset, not OCHA. If any files or notes could reflect >> that >> > >> > great. >> > >> > >> > >> > If there is any update I will let you know. It might take some time due >> to >> > >> > timezones and approvals by different UN groups. >> > >> > >> > >> > Thank you again for your work and advocacy. >> > >> > >> > >> > Heather >> > >> > On May 4, 2015 8:15 AM, "Heather Leson" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > Thank you. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Inquiry sent. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Heather >> > >> > > On May 4, 2015 8:02 AM, "Prabhas Pokharel" < >> [email protected]> >> > >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> Heather, >> > >> > >> 2. The dataset was the following >> > >> > >> https://data.hdx.rwlabs.org/dataset/nepal-health-facilities-cod >> > >> > >> 1. Megha went through and manually matched up health facilities in >> the >> > >> > >> Kathmandu Valley, because KLL has formerly surveyed and created a >> rigorous >> > >> > >> dataset in the valley. A majority of the conflicts in the valley were >> > >> > >> deleted. Since the second dataset doesn't have names, match up was >> done by >> > >> > >> location. Please follow up with Megha on the rest. >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> If we get a compatible license, the other route we could go through >> > >> > >> (instead of re-instanting the changeset) is to do a more rigorous >> import, >> > >> > >> after checking that the health facility locations seem legitimate >> (not in >> > >> > >> forests, near residences, etc.) and not in conflict with existing >> > >> > >> facilities with HOT's help. >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> cheers, >> > >> > >> Prabhas >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Heather Leson < >> [email protected]> >> > >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >>> Hi Pierre is sleeping. I would normally ask him and activation. I >> will >> > >> > >>> ask a contact via UN OCHA (offlist) and report back to activation >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> What I need is: >> > >> > >>> 1. Confirmation that the changeset link includes the full dataset >> (the >> > >> > >>> link below ) >> > >> > >>> 2. Exact source link for the dataset. >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> I will ask for a license update. >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> Does this sound ok? >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> Heather >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> The file is >> > >> > >>> On May 4, 2015 7:48 AM, "Prabhas Pokharel" < >> [email protected]> >> > >> > >>> wrote: >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>>> > A very sad one, but nothing to do >> > >> > >>>> > about it, unless the copyright holders let us upload the data to >> OSM >> > >> > >>>> > without that non-commercial restriction. >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> HOT, we must have contacts at UN OCHA, can we start a conversation >> to >> > >> > >>>> ask if they are willing to do it? At the moment, we don't have the >> > >> > >>>> bandwidth here at KLL these days to have this conversation. But as >> I see >> > >> > >>>> it, adding POIs and named places onto the map is pretty important >> to focus >> > >> > >>>> on, in parallel with all of the imagery-based work that we are >> doing. >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> cheers, >> > >> > >>>> Prabhas >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Rafael Avila Coya < >> > >> > >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > >> > >>>>> Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Hi, Prabhas: >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> I wonder if this data can be incorporated to a local or >> alternative >> > >> > >>>>> database that can be of use in this situation. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> About the field papers, I don't see any problem to use this data >> as a >> > >> > >>>>> guide of finding those health facilities and correctly geolocate >> them >> > >> > >>>>> while surveying on the ground. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Using the GNS and other place nodes already in the database, it >> might >> > >> > >>>>> be possible to add some of this nodes to OSM. It might. But in any >> > >> > >>>>> case, the license is a restriction. A very sad one, but nothing >> to do >> > >> > >>>>> about it, unless the copyright holders let us upload the data to >> OSM >> > >> > >>>>> without that non-commercial restriction. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Cheers, >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Rafael. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> On 04/05/15 00:26, Prabhas Pokharel wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> > Thank you all; two main issues here: one that the dataset >> > >> > >>>>> > geolocations are problematic, and two that the license was >> > >> > >>>>> > incompatible. Apologies for incorrectly interpreting the license >> > >> > >>>>> > here in Nepal. >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > As megha said, the reason we attempted this was because the maps >> > >> > >>>>> > that HOTOSM volunteers have helped create via tracing for us is >> > >> > >>>>> > amazingly detailed (in terms of residential areas, roads, >> pre-quake >> > >> > >>>>> > buildings), but hard to use because of the lack of POIs on the >> > >> > >>>>> > ground. This was an attempt to alleviate the problem, but sounds >> > >> > >>>>> > like we did misinterpret the license issue, and apologies for >> > >> > >>>>> > that. >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > We simply did not know about the problematic geolocations. >> However, >> > >> > >>>>> > it is worth noting that this dataset is what a lot of >> organizations >> > >> > >>>>> > have been using locally, given that it is the best available >> > >> > >>>>> > dataset of health facility locations. >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > Maybe the discussion we need to have soon is how we can improve >> > >> > >>>>> > OSM-based tools (MapOSMatic, Fieldpapers, etc) to incorporate >> > >> > >>>>> > datasets like this that are very useful in scenarios like what >> we >> > >> > >>>>> > are going through, but are incompatible to put into OSM because >> of >> > >> > >>>>> > the license. >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > cheers, Prabhas >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Rafael Avila Coya >> > >> > >>>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > Hi all: >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > Megha (MeghaShrestha), the user that imported these data, has >> > >> > >>>>> > answered me through the OSM messaging. She works with the KLL >> and >> > >> > >>>>> > she tells me: "we are trying to create papers for the relief >> > >> > >>>>> > workers. The problem being there are enough details like roads, >> > >> > >>>>> > buildings, rivers but no POIs in many areas. It is difficult for >> > >> > >>>>> > the relief workers to locate themselves on the map. Importing >> the >> > >> > >>>>> > health facilities data was an attempt so that they can at least >> > >> > >>>>> > find some POIs they can look for while locating themselves on >> the >> > >> > >>>>> > map. The data I imported was from >> > >> > >>>>> > https://data.hdx.rwlabs.org/dataset/nepal-health-facilities-cod >> . >> > >> > >>>>> > The licence says we can use the data for non commercial purpose >> and >> > >> > >>>>> > we need to credit the source. I hope these information are >> helpful >> > >> > >>>>> > and you can help us out." >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > With this info, I can see that the data is the one we were >> > >> > >>>>> > discussing a few days ago, although that data set contained >> almost >> > >> > >>>>> > 9,000 nodes, whereas the one of Megha had around 4,660. >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > I recall the main problem: geolocation was very poor (most of >> nodes >> > >> > >>>>> > in well out of any settlements). The other problem I see is the >> > >> > >>>>> > license: it's for non-commercial use, and that makes it >> > >> > >>>>> > incompatible with the OSM license. >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > I really feel to give a no in such circumstances as these, and >> > >> > >>>>> > that's why I ask for more input from other people with >> experience >> > >> > >>>>> > on this, just in case there is any possibility of including the >> > >> > >>>>> > data into OSM, and if not what other options we would have to >> make >> > >> > >>>>> > good use of these data set, if any. >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > Cheers, >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > Rafael. >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > On 03/05/15 18:14, Kretzer wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> >> When looking at the Gorkha area in #1024 I noticed several >> nodes >> > >> > >>>>> >> tagged as "Hospital" with a lot of information, quoting UNOCHA >> > >> > >>>>> >> as source, but obviously in the wrong place, because there is >> > >> > >>>>> >> nothing nearby. Like here: >> > >> > >>>>> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/28.00839/84.62397 >> Looks >> > >> > >>>>> >> like a mass import that somehow went wrong ... shame, because >> > >> > >>>>> >> hospitals are important! >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> >> By the way, I am somewhat confused as to what is that called a >> > >> > >>>>> >> "task" now? Is it a single tile (with a #) or is it the whole >> > >> > >>>>> >> project? >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ HOT mailing >> list >> > >> > >>>>> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> > >>>>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list >> > >> > >>>>> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> > >>>>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >>>>> > -- Prabhas Pokharel http://prabhasp.com >> > >> > >>>>> > twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> - -- >> > >> > >>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> - -------------------------------- >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, >> .xls, >> > >> > >>>>> .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e >> > >> > >>>>> abertos. >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros >> > >> > >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > >> > >>>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) >> > >> > >>>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVRvhtAAoJEB3niTly2pPQ6rYQAIACG4KEtph2xtxQvywpuEsJ >> > >> > >>>>> dJujmsakn1Z2R3Cx6RhbB1cpTtwRB5R08WDeDx6veKh2NjyyoYmBk1gpxam0M8m+ >> > >> > >>>>> nZcyixJxn59vMkVHCLh0kKyBBGNnDAPyQC+GBZtPsW04Vd7Zi8qc3rs98CnE3QHP >> > >> > >>>>> gHpXfD/xtiMSi/g/Q6MhQ/DNYOQLLyZn9O2F3zg8UWHFTBFcUE544wnOkKmzmoKF >> > >> > >>>>> ORyfN5Z3/d8E6GewV48otvl96S1xVikmLqu3AEDDGugU1llBOIpjG1gpF+yIEDtD >> > >> > >>>>> Qq5+2iYGqTWoq/k/fVpuORvWaETHYtORzcTjGbul757gwLZYFwJtrgMsnkjf0KiO >> > >> > >>>>> flnL3w6Vh5Ysc/imP5P6p76yg5rxRPhuoSdc0H5OJTExH09sZAwrvqOmjULeYTaX >> > >> > >>>>> wfltzd8QJmD7WWLSsVnRVNoNXyPkA6EFB0x5zJklAJdELslAZIrV2X0YPB/bbqDT >> > >> > >>>>> TJPob34LoicYoXZ0JPt5VbHPYUTZvHq7HJ8bZzaXOrWblPctb4fz7abUHUMEzl/5 >> > >> > >>>>> W9KoNx0wJAU1ChJkERV8IxuMwnffwELnw/CUN5p57XJ6PY5vCnuTOPYoScrTwFN4 >> > >> > >>>>> lfvwRSoMkDsbcmCPotaXJ+lt2egKAZoqWc9T78qEsOUsf9gB1pF2zfvHmTKBQ500 >> > >> > >>>>> 69oFJ/ArvtOAV2hLDBCx >> > >> > >>>>> =b93r >> > >> > >>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> -- >> > >> > >>>> Prabhas Pokharel >> > >> > >>>> http://prabhasp.com >> > >> > >>>> twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >> > >>>> HOT mailing list >> > >> > >>>> [email protected] >> > >> > >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> -- >> > >> > >> Prabhas Pokharel >> > >> > >> http://prabhasp.com >> > >> > >> twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > HOT mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad> <http://j.mp/ArunGanesh>
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