Hello Kratzer,
Just signed on moments ago, background
in GIS, GPS mapping, helicopter pilot.
Just curious if there is any metadata
attached to the GPS field information as to the
map projection and datum in use? Is there any
documentation for GPS field workers to refer
to? Or is this information just manually placed
on the map by eye? Bad data could be worse than none at all.
Perhaps I could help with documentation
for GPS fieldworkers if there is none in place.
Lots of challenges I'm sure,
Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison, Canada
At 04-05-2015 00:03 Monday, Kretzer wrote:
Maybe at some point a wrong coordinate system
was used for conversion? Like from the .shp to
.kll. (that's usually the reason why my GIS
imports end up in the wrong place ...) It would
be great if these important data could be of use
in the end. Gesendet mit der GMX iPhone App Am
04.05.15 um 07:51 schrieb Heather Leson > Hello,
my contacts advised that they are following up.
A quick note that > > this is a WHO dataset, not
OCHA. If any files or notes could reflect
that > > great. > > > > If there is any update I
will let you know. It might take some time due
to > > timezones and approvals by different UN
groups. > > > > Thank you again for your work
and advocacy. > > > > Heather > > On May 4, 2015
8:15 AM, "Heather Leson"
<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thank
you. > > > > > > Inquiry sent. > > > > > >
Heather > > > On May 4, 2015 8:02 AM, "Prabhas
Pokharel" <[email protected]> > > >
wrote: > > > > > >> Heather, > > >> 2. The
dataset was the following > > >>
https://data.hdx.rwlabs.org/dataset/nepal-health-facilities-cod
> > >> 1. Megha went through and manually
matched up health facilities in the > > >>
Kathmandu Valley, because KLL has formerly
surveyed and created a rigorous > > >> dataset
in the valley. A majority of the conflicts in
the valley were > > >> deleted. Since the second
dataset doesn't have names, match up was done
by > > >> location. Please follow up with Megha
on the rest. > > >> > > >> If we get a
compatible license, the other route we could go
through > > >> (instead of re-instanting the
changeset) is to do a more rigorous
import, > > >> after checking that the health
facility locations seem legitimate (not
in > > >> forests, near residences, etc.) and
not in conflict with existing > > >> facilities
with HOT's help. > > >> > > >> cheers, > > >>
Prabhas > > >> > > >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at
10:41 AM, Heather Leson
<[email protected]> > > >>
wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Pierre is sleeping. I
would normally ask him and activation. I
will > > >>> ask a contact via UN OCHA (offlist)
and report back to activation > > >>> > > >>>
What I need is: > > >>> 1. Confirmation that the
changeset link includes the full dataset
(the > > >>> link below ) > > >>> 2. Exact
source link for the dataset. > > >>> > > >>> I
will ask for a license update. > > >>> > > >>>
Does this sound ok? > > >>> > > >>>
Heather > > >>> > > >>> The file is > > >>> On
May 4, 2015 7:48 AM, "Prabhas Pokharel"
<[email protected]> > > >>>
wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> > A very sad one, but
nothing to do > > >>>> > about it, unless the
copyright holders let us upload the data to
OSM > > >>>> > without that non-commercial
restriction. > > >>>> > > >>>> HOT, we must have
contacts at UN OCHA, can we start a conversation
to > > >>>> ask if they are willing to do it? At
the moment, we don't have the > > >>>> bandwidth
here at KLL these days to have this
conversation. But as I see > > >>>> it, adding
POIs and named places onto the map is pretty
important to focus > > >>>> on, in parallel with
all of the imagery-based work that we are
doing. > > >>>> > > >>>> cheers, > > >>>>
Prabhas > > >>>> > > >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at
10:26 AM, Rafael Avila Coya < > > >>>>
[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >>>>>
Hash: SHA1 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hi,
Prabhas: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I wonder if this
data can be incorporated to a local or
alternative > > >>>>> database that can be of
use in this situation. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> About
the field papers, I don't see any problem to use
this data as a > > >>>>> guide of finding those
health facilities and correctly geolocate
them > > >>>>> while surveying on the
ground. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Using the GNS and
other place nodes already in the database, it
might > > >>>>> be possible to add some of this
nodes to OSM. It might. But in any > > >>>>>
case, the license is a restriction. A very sad
one, but nothing to do > > >>>>> about it,
unless the copyright holders let us upload the
data to OSM > > >>>>> without that
non-commercial restriction. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>
Cheers, > > >>>>> > > >>>>>
Rafael. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 04/05/15 00:26,
Prabhas Pokharel wrote: > > >>>>> > Thank you
all; two main issues here: one that the
dataset > > >>>>> > geolocations are
problematic, and two that the license
was > > >>>>> > incompatible. Apologies for
incorrectly interpreting the license > > >>>>> >
here in Nepal. > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > As megha
said, the reason we attempted this was because
the maps > > >>>>> > that HOTOSM volunteers have
helped create via tracing for us is > > >>>>> >
amazingly detailed (in terms of residential
areas, roads, pre-quake > > >>>>> > buildings),
but hard to use because of the lack of POIs on
the > > >>>>> > ground. This was an attempt to
alleviate the problem, but sounds > > >>>>> >
like we did misinterpret the license issue, and
apologies for > > >>>>> >
that. > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > We simply did not
know about the problematic geolocations.
However, > > >>>>> > it is worth noting that
this dataset is what a lot of
organizations > > >>>>> > have been using
locally, given that it is the best
available > > >>>>> > dataset of health facility
locations. > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > Maybe the
discussion we need to have soon is how we can
improve > > >>>>> > OSM-based tools (MapOSMatic,
Fieldpapers, etc) to incorporate > > >>>>> >
datasets like this that are very useful in
scenarios like what we > > >>>>> > are going
through, but are incompatible to put into OSM
because of > > >>>>> > the
license. > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > cheers,
Prabhas > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > On
Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Rafael Avila
Coya > > >>>>> > <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote: > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > Hi
all: > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > Megha
(MeghaShrestha), the user that imported these
data, has > > >>>>> > answered me through the
OSM messaging. She works with the KLL
and > > >>>>> > she tells me: "we are trying to
create papers for the relief > > >>>>> >
workers. The problem being there are enough
details like roads, > > >>>>> > buildings,
rivers but no POIs in many areas. It is
difficult for > > >>>>> > the relief workers to
locate themselves on the map. Importing
the > > >>>>> > health facilities data was an
attempt so that they can at least > > >>>>> >
find some POIs they can look for while locating
themselves on the > > >>>>> > map. The data I
imported was from > > >>>>> >
https://data.hdx.rwlabs.org/dataset/nepal-health-facilities-cod.
> > >>>>> > The licence says we can use the
data for non commercial purpose and > > >>>>> >
we need to credit the source. I hope these
information are helpful > > >>>>> > and you can
help us out." > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > With this
info, I can see that the data is the one we
were > > >>>>> > discussing a few days ago,
although that data set contained
almost > > >>>>> > 9,000 nodes, whereas the one
of Megha had around
4,660. > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > I recall the main
problem: geolocation was very poor (most of
nodes > > >>>>> > in well out of any
settlements). The other problem I see is
the > > >>>>> > license: it's for non-commercial
use, and that makes it > > >>>>> > incompatible
with the OSM license. > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > I
really feel to give a no in such circumstances
as these, and > > >>>>> > that's why I ask for
more input from other people with
experience > > >>>>> > on this, just in case
there is any possibility of including
the > > >>>>> > data into OSM, and if not what
other options we would have to make > > >>>>> >
good use of these data set, if
any. > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> >
Cheers, > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> >
Rafael. > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > On 03/05/15
18:14, Kretzer wrote: > > >>>>> >> When looking
at the Gorkha area in #1024 I noticed several
nodes > > >>>>> >> tagged as "Hospital" with a
lot of information, quoting UNOCHA > > >>>>> >>
as source, but obviously in the wrong place,
because there is > > >>>>> >> nothing nearby.
Like here: > > >>>>> >>
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/28.00839/84.62397
Looks > > >>>>> >> like a mass import that
somehow went wrong ... shame,
because > > >>>>> >> hospitals are
important! > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> >>
By the way, I am somewhat confused as to what is
that called a > > >>>>> >> "task" now? Is it a
single tile (with a #) or is it the
whole > > >>>>> >>
project? > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> >>
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>>>>> > -- Prabhas Pokharel
http://prabhasp.com > > >>>>> >
twitter/skype/facebook/whatever:
prabhasp > > >>>>> > > >>>>> - -- > > >>>>>
Twitter:
http://twitter.com/ravilacoya > > >>>>> > > >>>>>
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>>> Por favor, non me envÃe documentos con
extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, > > >>>>> .xlsx,
.ppt, .pptx, aÃnda podendoo facer, non os
abro. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Atendendo á
lexislación vixente, empregue formatos
estándares e > > >>>>>
abertos. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros
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>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Prabhas
Pokharel > > >>>> http://prabhasp.com > > >>>>
twitter/skype/facebook/whatever:
prabhasp > > >>>> > > >>>>
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>>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >>
Prabhas Pokharel > > >>
http://prabhasp.com > > >>
twitter/skype/facebook/whatever:
prabhasp > > >> > > > > >
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