The push for it here is for something well beyond anything FarCry can do out of the box. Someone at Microsoft sold the people higher up on the idea that SharePoint can do a lot of things that it can not and is not even marketed to do. From talking to the few people I know who work for Microsoft, this is actually becoming a common sales tactics because the people I know have been complaining about the damage control they have been having to do because of it.
SharePoint is nice in that a group of people within a company who have zero developer experience can setup a team site, share documents, setup simple workflows around those and even have the group's secretary create simple things like surveys about the latest team outing or whatever along those lines. All things that in the past typically required a developer to build. I am sure as the product matures more it will allow for the elimination of more things that required developers in the past. The thing is, as I saw in my survey quote example earlier, as soon as you want to step out of the box and need a developer, you end up facing much more complex developer needs which means more time and money. What amazes me is the amount of servers we have in our SharePoint farms to handle what I would classify as very little user load. One of those SharePoint applications I mentioned earlier that uses a 3rd party tool for workflows has I believe no more than 25 concurrent users and it uses 7 servers in its farm and the demonstrations I have seen of it were rather slow to run. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:48 PM, James Husum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > > So what's the big push with Sharepoint? Seems like a lot of companies are > adopting it recently. Why not a CF solution like FarCry? > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yeah, SharePoint is not going to go away and eventually will mature into > > a product that replaces a lot of the stuff that developers were always > > needed for. SharePoint was sold to us as Lotus Notes on steroids, maybe > > because a lot of our group are ex-Lotus Notes programmers. None of those > > ex-Lotus people though seem to be overly impressed with it so far. > > > > I think what will be interesting to see in the coming years is what > > competing products come out to compete with SharePoint. I know of at least > > one company in its infant stage right now that was started solely to do that > > and by ex-MS employees who got aggravated with all the issues they were > > facing from trying to support WSS. > > > > I do not know how complex your Lotus Notes applications are but would be > > curious to hear if you ultimately end up using the built in WFF or have to > > go to a third party workflow tool. The two applications I had demo'd to me > > that were SharePoint applications both used third party workflow tools > > because they found the built in ones just were not going to cut it for > > them. One of those applications was a pretty hefty application, the other I > > would not rate as big, maybe medium. > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Seth Bienek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > This is a great discussion. > > > > > > We're deploying Sharepoint where I work, in part to replace much of > > > the functionality in Lotus Notes > > > (workflows, etc), so this will probably come up for us at some point. > > > > > > Interestingly, about a month ago Ben Forta posted a request for > > > features regarding built-in > > > SharePoint integration with ColdFusion: > > > > > > http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2008/3/18/What-Would-You-Want-From-ColdFusion-Microsoft-SharePoi > > > nt-Integration<http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2008/3/18/What-Would-You-Want-From-ColdFusion-Microsoft-SharePoint-Integration> > > > > > > I don't think SharePoint is going away any time soon, it's good to see > > > the folks at Adobe taking the > > > bull by the horns (pardon the veiled Centaur reference). > > > > > > Seth > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of Aqil Mansuri > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:05 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [houcfug] Re: SharePoint and ColdFusion > > > > > > > > > > > > We use sharepoint at my company. We are using page viewer webparts > > > and displaying coldfusion > > > > applications in the webparts. We use integrated security in cf so > > > we pass through the > > > > authentication from the iis server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: 5/1/08 8:55 AM > > > > Subject: [houcfug] Re: SharePoint and ColdFusion > > > > > > > > > > > > You might want to look into BlueDragon for ASP.net - it's ColdFusion > > > > that can mix ASP.NET code and templates together natively: > > > > > > > > http://www.newatlanta.com/c/products/bluedragon/download/home > > > > > > > > We've been using it for over a year now, and while we are still > > > firmly > > > > in the ColdFusion code area, the potential to use .NET code is a > > > nice > > > > option. > > > > > > > > James E. Thomas > > > > Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > Behalf Of Allan Stilwell > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:34 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [houcfug] SharePoint and ColdFusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone tried to integrate ColdFusion and SharePoint? If so what > > > did > > > > you integrate, why, were you successful and what were some lessons > > > > learned? > > > > > > > > We stood up a SharePoint instance in our organization and I see a > > > lot of > > > > potential for integration, but I am worried they may not play nice > > > > together. Any inputs or suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ____________ > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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