We're using it for a "full-blown" business app as well - for managing content, reporting, data ... I can't get into the details, but it's not just a typical "sharing" application, and most of it was built out of the box or using tools that you can buy to plug in.
I'm sort of new to it, but I don't believe they're doing anything special so that we could have several orders of magnitude more users on 7 x fewer servers =). Even if I'm off by a factor of 100, we're still seeing much better performance. Sam On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But what are you doing with it and what are they doing with it. That is > probably the huge difference here. I know what they have is best way I > could describe it a full blown business application working within > SharePoint. In the demos there was not one thing that I saw that was canned > SharePoint and I do not recall when I asked him if any of what they did was > out of the box for that application. > > I do not know what the user base was for their test run for the big > collaboration project using SharePoint here. I know that farm had 5-6 > servers in it and it was not painfully slow but I know they put that move on > hold for performance and security reasons. Now if that were to have gone > live it would have needed to handle 82k users and I would guess 6-8k > concurrent users. No idea if they planned to add more servers or not. > > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Sammy Larbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What amazes me is the amount of servers we have in our SharePoint > > > farms to handle what I would classify as very little user load. One of > > > those SharePoint applications I mentioned earlier that uses a 3rd party > > > tool > > > for workflows has I believe no more than 25 concurrent users and it uses 7 > > > servers in its farm and the demonstrations I have seen of it were rather > > > slow to run. > > > > > > > > > That sounds horrible, and not a Sharepoint problem. We're having > > probably around 10k concurrent at peak times, and have only one modest > > server running it. > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:48 PM, James Husum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > So what's the big push with Sharepoint? Seems like a lot of > > > > companies are adopting it recently. Why not a CF solution like FarCry? > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yeah, SharePoint is not going to go away and eventually will > > > > > mature into a product that replaces a lot of the stuff that > > > > > developers were > > > > > always needed for. SharePoint was sold to us as Lotus Notes on > > > > > steroids, > > > > > maybe because a lot of our group are ex-Lotus Notes programmers. > > > > > None of > > > > > those ex-Lotus people though seem to be overly impressed with it so > > > > > far. > > > > > > > > > > I think what will be interesting to see in the coming years is > > > > > what competing products come out to compete with SharePoint. I know > > > > > of at > > > > > least one company in its infant stage right now that was started > > > > > solely to > > > > > do that and by ex-MS employees who got aggravated with all the issues > > > > > they > > > > > were facing from trying to support WSS. > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how complex your Lotus Notes applications are but > > > > > would be curious to hear if you ultimately end up using the built in > > > > > WFF or > > > > > have to go to a third party workflow tool. The two applications I had > > > > > demo'd to me that were SharePoint applications both used third party > > > > > workflow tools because they found the built in ones just were not > > > > > going to > > > > > cut it for them. One of those applications was a pretty hefty > > > > > application, > > > > > the other I would not rate as big, maybe medium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Seth Bienek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a great discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > We're deploying Sharepoint where I work, in part to replace much > > > > > > of the functionality in Lotus Notes > > > > > > (workflows, etc), so this will probably come up for us at some > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, about a month ago Ben Forta posted a request for > > > > > > features regarding built-in > > > > > > SharePoint integration with ColdFusion: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2008/3/18/What-Would-You-Want-From-ColdFusion-Microsoft-SharePoi > > > > > > nt-Integration<http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2008/3/18/What-Would-You-Want-From-ColdFusion-Microsoft-SharePoint-Integration> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think SharePoint is going away any time soon, it's good > > > > > > to see the folks at Adobe taking the > > > > > > bull by the horns (pardon the veiled Centaur reference). > > > > > > > > > > > > Seth > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aqil Mansuri > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:05 AM > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > Subject: [houcfug] Re: SharePoint and ColdFusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We use sharepoint at my company. We are using page viewer > > > > > > webparts and displaying coldfusion > > > > > > > applications in the webparts. We use integrated security in > > > > > > cf so we pass through the > > > > > > > authentication from the iis server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > Sent: 5/1/08 8:55 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [houcfug] Re: SharePoint and ColdFusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You might want to look into BlueDragon for ASP.net - it's > > > > > > ColdFusion > > > > > > > that can mix ASP.NET code and templates together natively: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.newatlanta.com/c/products/bluedragon/download/home > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been using it for over a year now, and while we are > > > > > > still firmly > > > > > > > in the ColdFusion code area, the potential to use .NET code is > > > > > > a nice > > > > > > > option. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > James E. Thomas > > > > > > > Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > > > > Behalf Of Allan Stilwell > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:34 PM > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > Subject: [houcfug] SharePoint and ColdFusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone tried to integrate ColdFusion and SharePoint? If so > > > > > > what did > > > > > > > you integrate, why, were you successful and what were some > > > > > > lessons > > > > > > > learned? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We stood up a SharePoint instance in our organization and I > > > > > > see a lot of > > > > > > > potential for integration, but I am worried they may not play > > > > > > nice > > > > > > > together. 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