But what are you doing with it and what are they doing with it.  That is
probably the huge difference here.  I know what they have is best way I
could describe it a full blown business application working within
SharePoint.  In the demos there was not one thing that I saw that was canned
SharePoint and I do not recall when I asked him if any of what they did was
out of the box for that application.

I do not know what the user base was for their test run for the big
collaboration project using SharePoint here.  I know that farm had 5-6
servers in it and it was not painfully slow but I know they put that move on
hold for performance and security reasons.  Now if that were to have gone
live it would have needed to handle 82k users and I would guess 6-8k
concurrent users.  No idea if they planned to add more servers or not.

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Sammy Larbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > What amazes me is the amount of servers we have in our SharePoint farms
> > to handle what I would classify as very little user load.  One of those
> > SharePoint applications I mentioned earlier that uses a 3rd party tool for
> > workflows has I believe no more than 25 concurrent users and it uses 7
> > servers in its farm and the demonstrations I have seen of it were rather
> > slow to run.
> >
>
>
> That sounds horrible, and not a Sharepoint problem.  We're having probably
> around 10k concurrent at peak times, and have only one modest server running
> it.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:48 PM, James Husum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > So what's the big push with Sharepoint? Seems like a lot of companies
> > > are adopting it recently. Why not a CF solution like FarCry?
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yeah, SharePoint is not going to go away and eventually will mature
> > > > into a product that replaces a lot of the stuff that developers were 
> > > > always
> > > > needed for.  SharePoint was sold to us as Lotus Notes on steroids, maybe
> > > > because a lot of our group are ex-Lotus Notes programmers.  None of 
> > > > those
> > > > ex-Lotus people though seem to be overly impressed with it so far.
> > > >
> > > > I think what will be interesting to see in the coming years is what
> > > > competing products come out to compete with SharePoint.  I know of at 
> > > > least
> > > > one company in its infant stage right now that was started solely to do 
> > > > that
> > > > and by ex-MS employees who got aggravated with all the issues they were
> > > > facing from trying to support WSS.
> > > >
> > > > I do not know how complex your Lotus Notes applications are but
> > > > would be curious to hear if you ultimately end up using the built in 
> > > > WFF or
> > > > have to go to a third party workflow tool.  The two applications I had
> > > > demo'd to me that were SharePoint applications both used third party
> > > > workflow tools because they found the built in ones just were not going 
> > > > to
> > > > cut it for them.  One of those applications was a pretty hefty 
> > > > application,
> > > > the other I would not rate as big, maybe medium.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Seth Bienek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a great discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > We're deploying Sharepoint where I work, in part to replace much
> > > > > of the functionality in Lotus Notes
> > > > > (workflows, etc), so this will probably come up for us at some
> > > > > point.
> > > > >
> > > > > Interestingly, about a month ago Ben Forta posted a request for
> > > > > features regarding built-in
> > > > > SharePoint integration with ColdFusion:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2008/3/18/What-Would-You-Want-From-ColdFusion-Microsoft-SharePoi
> > > > > nt-Integration<http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2008/3/18/What-Would-You-Want-From-ColdFusion-Microsoft-SharePoint-Integration>
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think SharePoint is going away any time soon, it's good to
> > > > > see the folks at Adobe taking the
> > > > > bull by the horns (pardon the veiled Centaur reference).
> > > > >
> > > > > Seth
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Aqil Mansuri
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:05 AM
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: [houcfug] Re: SharePoint and ColdFusion
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We use sharepoint at my company.  We are using page viewer
> > > > > webparts and displaying coldfusion
> > > > > > applications in the webparts.  We use integrated security in cf
> > > > > so we pass through the
> > > > > > authentication from the iis server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Sent: 5/1/08 8:55 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [houcfug] Re: SharePoint and ColdFusion
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You might want to look into BlueDragon for ASP.net - it's
> > > > > ColdFusion
> > > > > > that can mix ASP.NET code and templates together natively:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.newatlanta.com/c/products/bluedragon/download/home
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We've been using it for over a year now, and while we are still
> > > > > firmly
> > > > > > in the ColdFusion code area, the potential to use .NET code is a
> > > > > nice
> > > > > > option.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James E. Thomas
> > > > > > Baker Botts L.L.P. Web Developer
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > On
> > > > > > Behalf Of Allan Stilwell
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:34 PM
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: [houcfug] SharePoint and ColdFusion
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone tried to integrate ColdFusion and SharePoint? If so
> > > > > what did
> > > > > > you integrate, why, were you successful and what were some
> > > > > lessons
> > > > > > learned?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We stood up a SharePoint instance in our organization and I see
> > > > > a lot of
> > > > > > potential for integration, but I am worried they may not play
> > > > > nice
> > > > > > together. Any inputs or suggestions would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Aaron Rouse
> > > > http://www.happyhacker.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > James Husum
> > > The Quixote Project - one guy's quest to make the world a better place
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> > > Brainsludge - all the shtuff running around my brain -
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> > > Currently reading: The Grey King by Susan Cooper
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
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