Interesting, I could not get into the details of theirs even if I fully remembered them. Perhaps they just hired a team of idiots to build it or just are doing something they should not with it. I am going to lean towards the latter because most of the ones I have had demo'd it sounded like they were trying to work around SharePoint from within it.
I'd imagine there is a vast difference in what the applications are used for if you have 10k concurrent users. Even our biggest applications here I do not think get to that. I am just guessing our current collaboration tool might get to 6k-8k since we have 82k total users, but that is worldwide which spreads the load. I know our biggest quality based tool that is used company wide typically just has 1k concurrent users and it is kept on classic ASP because their testing of going to ASP.NET was going to be more hardware intensive and they did not want to invest in that at the time.. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Sammy Larbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We're using it for a "full-blown" business app as well - for managing > content, reporting, data ... I can't get into the details, but it's not just > a typical "sharing" application, and most of it was built out of the box or > using tools that you can buy to plug in. > > I'm sort of new to it, but I don't believe they're doing anything special > so that we could have several orders of magnitude more users on 7 x fewer > servers =). Even if I'm off by a factor of 100, we're still seeing much > better performance. > > Sam > > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > But what are you doing with it and what are they doing with it. That is > > probably the huge difference here. I know what they have is best way I > > could describe it a full blown business application working within > > SharePoint. In the demos there was not one thing that I saw that was canned > > SharePoint and I do not recall when I asked him if any of what they did was > > out of the box for that application. > > > > I do not know what the user base was for their test run for the big > > collaboration project using SharePoint here. I know that farm had 5-6 > > servers in it and it was not painfully slow but I know they put that move on > > hold for performance and security reasons. Now if that were to have gone > > live it would have needed to handle 82k users and I would guess 6-8k > > concurrent users. No idea if they planned to add more servers or not. > > > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Sammy Larbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What amazes me is the amount of servers we have in our SharePoint > > > > farms to handle what I would classify as very little user load. One of > > > > those SharePoint applications I mentioned earlier that uses a 3rd party > > > > tool > > > > for workflows has I believe no more than 25 concurrent users and it > > > > uses 7 > > > > servers in its farm and the demonstrations I have seen of it were rather > > > > slow to run. > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds horrible, and not a Sharepoint problem. We're having > > > probably around 10k concurrent at peak times, and have only one modest > > > server running it. > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:48 PM, James Husum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > > > So what's the big push with Sharepoint? Seems like a lot of > > > > > companies are adopting it recently. Why not a CF solution like FarCry? > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, SharePoint is not going to go away and eventually will > > > > > > mature into a product that replaces a lot of the stuff that > > > > > > developers were > > > > > > always needed for. SharePoint was sold to us as Lotus Notes on > > > > > > steroids, > > > > > > maybe because a lot of our group are ex-Lotus Notes programmers. > > > > > > None of > > > > > > those ex-Lotus people though seem to be overly impressed with it so > > > > > > far. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think what will be interesting to see in the coming years is > > > > > > what competing products come out to compete with SharePoint. I > > > > > > know of at > > > > > > least one company in its infant stage right now that was started > > > > > > solely to > > > > > > do that and by ex-MS employees who got aggravated with all the > > > > > > issues they > > > > > > were facing from trying to support WSS. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how complex your Lotus Notes applications are but > > > > > > would be curious to hear if you ultimately end up using the built > > > > > > in WFF or > > > > > > have to go to a third party workflow tool. The two applications I > > > > > > had > > > > > > demo'd to me that were SharePoint applications both used third party > > > > > > workflow tools because they found the built in ones just were not > > > > > > going to > > > > > > cut it for them. One of those applications was a pretty hefty > > > > > > application, > > > > > > the other I would not rate as big, maybe medium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Seth Bienek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a great discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We're deploying Sharepoint where I work, in part to replace > > > > > > > much of the functionality in Lotus Notes > > > > > > > (workflows, etc), so this will probably come up for us at some > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, about a month ago Ben Forta posted a request > > > > > > > for features regarding built-in > > > > > > > SharePoint integration with ColdFusion: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2008/3/18/What-Would-You-Want-From-ColdFusion-Microsoft-SharePoi > > > > > > > nt-Integration<http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2008/3/18/What-Would-You-Want-From-ColdFusion-Microsoft-SharePoint-Integration> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think SharePoint is going away any time soon, it's > > > > > > > good to see the folks at Adobe taking the > > > > > > > bull by the horns (pardon the veiled Centaur reference). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aqil Mansuri > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:05 AM > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > Subject: [houcfug] Re: SharePoint and ColdFusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We use sharepoint at my company. We are using page viewer > > > > > > > webparts and displaying coldfusion > > > > > > > > applications in the webparts. We use integrated security in > > > > > > > cf so we pass through the > > > > > > > > authentication from the iis server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > Sent: 5/1/08 8:55 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: [houcfug] Re: SharePoint and ColdFusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You might want to look into BlueDragon for ASP.net - it's > > > > > > > ColdFusion > > > > > > > > that can mix ASP.NET code and templates together natively: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.newatlanta.com/c/products/bluedragon/download/home > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been using it for over a year now, and while we are > > > > > > > still firmly > > > > > > > > in the ColdFusion code area, the potential to use .NET code > > > > > > > is a nice > > > > > > > > option. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > James E. 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