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"fredt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In the light of various contributions regarding this thread, I would like to
> add to my last post on this subject.
>
> Several people have requested to close down the forums or stop development
> discussions from taking place there. I do not agree mailing lists are easy to
> follow when important discussions on trends and strategies are involved.
How many "discusions" do you follow.
I am on 110 or so mailing lists.
There is NO way I would be able to handle this much IO with an HTML interface.
For starters it is not gnus. If you have every used gnus you would see why it
is so powerfull. I can cut through e-mail at an amazing rate.
The web interface is a closed system. I can't do anything with it.
... BTW. If you don't like the mailing lists... you can read everything through
the HTML archive.
> With the forums I can see the whole thread of discussion on a subject within
> one page,
Any decent mail client should support threading.
> with posts indented to show which message is being replied to.
again.. threading :)
> If someone makes a mistake or forgets something, they can easily append a
> message to the original.
reply :)
> There is little need for quoting from the previous message as the whole text
> is visible above.
I don't see how anyone could follow a conversation in this manner.
> I find it ironic that people who spend their life developing software for
> presentation of information on the web, scoff at the use of such software and
> ignore its advantages.
You are making the incorrect assumption that one technology replaces the other.
The truth is that the web complements the existing email infrastructure.
Just because the web is new and shiny doesn't mean it can replace everything
that came before it.
> I am not saying that forums are perfect but they are much easier to use for
> reading the information.
in your opinion.
Web forums are not scalable. There is no way I could participate on 110
different mailing lists and communicate with potentially thousands of people
without e-mail.
> Mailing lists are OK if something simple is being queried or an announcement
> is made.
You should invert this.
"Forms are OK if something simple is being queried or an announcement is made."
:)
> But if you want to refer back to anything important it is not easy to find,
> even if you can search the archive.
I keep a copy of all my e-mail. I have over 4G of e-mail from the last 5 or so
years. It is all indexed and I can run queries across it even if I am
disconnected from the Internet.
There is no way you could do that with the forums.
> The big issue is lack of threading: all the children are displayed as having
> only one parent.
What e-mail client are you using? Any decent client should support threading.
> I am glad others agree with me on GeoCrawler's deficiencies. Now that
> suggestions have been made to switch to another mail archive, why not explore
> a switch to NNTP with a mailing list mirror and an web mirror.
<snip>
NNTP is more of a problem. You make the assumption that everyone has access to
a fast NNTP server.
NNTP is cool... but not for mailing lists...
Kevin
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