So to turn Darwin into OS X, we only need to add a number of other items, particularly key Apple-proprietary (non-OSS) pieces. Sounds like OS X is proprietary, to me - not OSS. It may have a slab of Darwin OSS beneath it, but OS X is not Darwin. So OS X is no longer OSS. Doesn't sound strange to me at all!

Anyway, I've used OS X (and Windows and OS/2 and Linux), too. Glad you enjoy it!

On 02/19/2013 01:14 PM, JohnPW wrote:
I'm sure your an expert in your bailiwick, but I think you're
misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, Darwin is an Apple led OSS
effort and OS X (Apple's complete commercial OS, which is not OSS)
consists of a number of other software parts (some proprietary, and some
not) such as OpenGL QuickTime, Quartz, Cocoa, and the Aqua UI, all
running atop Darwin. So to say "OS X has moved so far beyond its Darwin
roots that in my opinion it is no longer open source." is a strange
thing to say in any of a number of ways.
In any case, I applaud efforts, of all kinds, to create good software
for people to use. And I love my Mac that's running OS X (which stands
on the shoulders of OSS just as Linux does.)
If you think Linux is the best thing since sliced bread, then more power
to you. Because I think people deserve to use whatever OS they decide
they like (with all the good and bad trade-offs entailed in their
choice.)  :-)

On Monday, February 18, 2013 1:17:07 PM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote:


    OS X has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my opinion it is
    no longer open source. You can't get yourself a full copy of Mac OS
    X by
    simply downloading the Darwin source and compiling it ...

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