On Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:01:17 AM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote:
>
> I did. I never said OS X was never OSS. I said it had moved so far 
> beyond its OSS foundation (Darwin) that in my opinion it's no longer 
> OSS.

No, it was *I* who was saying that OS X was never OSS, (because it never 
was.) I was simply pointing out it's standard OSS underpinnings (perfectly 
good for running OSS, even if it's not the most popular platform for doing 
so.) But forget it, as this is getting silly.
 

> In a strict 
> interpretation of some OSS licenses, some might say that *OS X would be 
> in violation of those licenses*.
>
"Some might might say" that the earth is flat and the moon is made of green 
cheese, but so what.?
Strict or lax, interpretation of "some OSS licensing schemes" is 
irrelevant, since Apple and OS X don't violate the licenses that apply to 
the code they use.
 

> But this isn't making Hugin any better, regardless of platform it 
> happens to run on. Now Hugin on a Google Nexus 10 - that would be 
> interesting!
>

Go for it!
And could you also maintain an iOS compatible version? Or is that too much 
to ask?  ;-)**
I truly wish I has some coding talent so I could help out. But as I've said 
elsewhere, I'm an UI/UX guy!

John

**[actually have you checked out the panorama feature on the iPhone? I 
didn't expect much from it but it's actually pretty darn good (for partial 
panoramas.) I've only tried similar panorama features on P&S cameras 
before, but the Apple SW does a better job than I've seen there. I wonder 
how they have optimized the software and what, if any, OSS libraries it 
uses. I'll have to take a look at the credits.]
 

>
> On 02/20/2013 09:24 AM, JohnPW wrote: 
> > Me, "I'm sure you know that *Darwin is an OSS OS*" 
> > You, "*OS X* has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my opinion 
> > it *is no longer open source*" 
> > 
> > Me, [my point being OS X *was **never* open source] ". . . you're 
> > misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, *Darwin is an Apple led 
> > OSS effort* and OS X (Apple's complete *commercial OS, which is not 
> > OSS*) consists of a number of other software parts (some proprietary, 
> > and some not) . . . *all running atop Darwin*." 
> > You, "Sounds like *OS X is proprietary*, to me*- not OSS*. It may have a 
> > slab of Darwin OSS beneath it, but *OS X is not Darwin*." 
> > 
> > Did you read anything I wrote before you commented on it? :-) 
> > 
> > John 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:30:17 AM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote: 
> > 
> >     So to turn Darwin into OS X, we only need to add a number of other 
> >     items, particularly key Apple-proprietary (non-OSS) pieces. Sounds 
> like 
> >     OS X is proprietary, to me - not OSS. It may have a slab of Darwin 
> OSS 
> >     beneath it, but OS X is not Darwin. So OS X is no longer OSS. 
> Doesn't 
> >     sound strange to me at all! 
> > 
> >     Anyway, I've used OS X (and Windows and OS/2 and Linux), too. Glad 
> you 
> >     enjoy it! 
> > 
> >     On 02/19/2013 01:14 PM, JohnPW wrote: 
> >      > I'm sure your an expert in your bailiwick, but I think you're 
> >      > misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, Darwin is an Apple 
> >     led OSS 
> >      > effort and OS X (Apple's complete commercial OS, which is not 
> OSS) 
> >      > consists of a number of other software parts (some proprietary, 
> >     and some 
> >      > not) such as OpenGL QuickTime, Quartz, Cocoa, and the Aqua UI, 
> all 
> >      > running atop Darwin. So to say "OS X has moved so far beyond its 
> >     Darwin 
> >      > roots that in my opinion it is no longer open source." is a 
> strange 
> >      > thing to say in any of a number of ways. 
> >      > In any case, I applaud efforts, of all kinds, to create good 
> >     software 
> >      > for people to use. And I love my Mac that's running OS X (which 
> >     stands 
> >      > on the shoulders of OSS just as Linux does.) 
> >      > If you think Linux is the best thing since sliced bread, then 
> >     more power 
> >      > to you. Because I think people deserve to use whatever OS they 
> >     decide 
> >      > they like (with all the good and bad trade-offs entailed in their 
> >      > choice.)  :-) 
> >      > 
> >      > On Monday, February 18, 2013 1:17:07 PM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote: 
> >      > 
> >      > 
> >      >     OS X has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my 
> >     opinion it is 
> >      >     no longer open source. You can't get yourself a full copy of 
> >     Mac OS 
> >      >     X by 
> >      >     simply downloading the Darwin source and compiling it ... 
> >      > 
> >      >     -- 
> >      >     Gnome Nomad 
>
>
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