I did. I never said OS X was never OSS. I said it had moved so far
beyond its OSS foundation (Darwin) that in my opinion it's no longer
OSS. I don't have to add a particular manufacturer's closed-source
proprietary code to Linux to make it Linux. So OS X does not "stand on
the shoulders of OSS" the same way Linux does. In a strict
interpretation of some OSS licenses, some might say that *OS X would be
in violation of those licenses*.
But this isn't making Hugin any better, regardless of platform it
happens to run on. Now Hugin on a Google Nexus 10 - that would be
interesting!
On 02/20/2013 09:24 AM, JohnPW wrote:
Me, "I'm sure you know that *Darwin is an OSS OS*"
You, "*OS X* has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my opinion
it *is no longer open source*"
Me, [my point being OS X *was **never* open source] ". . . you're
misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, *Darwin is an Apple led
OSS effort* and OS X (Apple's complete *commercial OS, which is not
OSS*) consists of a number of other software parts (some proprietary,
and some not) . . . *all running atop Darwin*."
You, "Sounds like *OS X is proprietary*, to me*- not OSS*. It may have a
slab of Darwin OSS beneath it, but *OS X is not Darwin*."
Did you read anything I wrote before you commented on it? :-)
John
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:30:17 AM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote:
So to turn Darwin into OS X, we only need to add a number of other
items, particularly key Apple-proprietary (non-OSS) pieces. Sounds like
OS X is proprietary, to me - not OSS. It may have a slab of Darwin OSS
beneath it, but OS X is not Darwin. So OS X is no longer OSS. Doesn't
sound strange to me at all!
Anyway, I've used OS X (and Windows and OS/2 and Linux), too. Glad you
enjoy it!
On 02/19/2013 01:14 PM, JohnPW wrote:
> I'm sure your an expert in your bailiwick, but I think you're
> misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, Darwin is an Apple
led OSS
> effort and OS X (Apple's complete commercial OS, which is not OSS)
> consists of a number of other software parts (some proprietary,
and some
> not) such as OpenGL QuickTime, Quartz, Cocoa, and the Aqua UI, all
> running atop Darwin. So to say "OS X has moved so far beyond its
Darwin
> roots that in my opinion it is no longer open source." is a strange
> thing to say in any of a number of ways.
> In any case, I applaud efforts, of all kinds, to create good
software
> for people to use. And I love my Mac that's running OS X (which
stands
> on the shoulders of OSS just as Linux does.)
> If you think Linux is the best thing since sliced bread, then
more power
> to you. Because I think people deserve to use whatever OS they
decide
> they like (with all the good and bad trade-offs entailed in their
> choice.) :-)
>
> On Monday, February 18, 2013 1:17:07 PM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote:
>
>
> OS X has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my
opinion it is
> no longer open source. You can't get yourself a full copy of
Mac OS
> X by
> simply downloading the Darwin source and compiling it ...
>
> --
> Gnome Nomad
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