I don't  see your post as a rant at all.
One of the most worrying things I note today is the passivity and
acceptance by people of the PTB as the new 'God Head' in their lives.
People should be angry, both at what is happening to their planet
[never mind G Warming- that is a side issue of the rip off] and also
at the personal affront that spacial highjacking presents via effects
like EM pollution.
That guy in Sweden [uWave effects] has been pushing for ages- but they
seem like voices in the dark- as people are IN the dark- and can't
bear the light much, as it's all a bit scary !
We're supposed to trust our leaders, scientists and medicos after all.
Oops!...

On Mar 2, 8:23 pm, patty <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi everybody;  I don't use a cellphone, I don't even use a microwave.
> I refused jobs in the past because I'd have to wear earphones.  I
> could never stand being around such things let alone having them stuck
> in my ears.  The reasons I have for reading the documents let me see
> the conjecture that has been used to protect this industry.  Now they
> are in a corner, I'm glad I'm not in thier shoes, but if I was, I'd be
> honest.
> It is effecting everyone, I think very few are immune to it.  It just
> has such varying degrees and hits on different weakness in each
> individual.  The different frequencies and thier modulations all have
> different catagories of effects.  More studys have been done on near
> field, which has a different effect from far fields.
> Have they been sneaky in the way that they state thier case?  Have
> they used arrogance? To keep people in the dark, suffering quietly.
> I keep seeing them as the Ostrich with it's proverbial head stuck in
> the sand.
> The microwaves not only go thru the skulls of hum hearers but they go
> thru the skulls of everyone.  If you don't have the unseen spectrum of
> light waves going thru your head, if you don't percieve them you have
> no sensory transduction,  I'm sure they call that being brain dead.
>
> Sorry I have to rant sometimes too.
> Patty
>
> On Feb 25, 11:29 pm, dboots <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > you are absolutely right about the waves going thru the brain  Well
> > they are
> > about to introduce new even faster wireless
> > technology to the public   Odds are we are already living within it
> > and it
> > probably affects us whether we are carrying a wireless device or not
>
> >   WHO isn't confused   They know exactly what they are doing which is
> > influencing public opinion to think how TPTB want the population to
> > think
> > wireless technology is of
> > no harm no foul play
>
> > On Feb 25, 11:10 am, patty <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > No I don't trust them.  My truth is that we all are human.  I am
> > > reading the articles so I can see the short comings in the processes
> > > they are using.
> > > We do have a comprehensive case.  They are confused, probably more
> > > than we are.  One chink in thier armour that I notice is, how they are
> > > equating the effects of the use of a cell phone (near field) with the
> > > effects of base stations (far field).  They are flipping from one to
> > > the other.  I must say the EMF sensitives in Europe have put a ruffle
> > > in their feathers.  I know how I felt when I was first confronted with
> > > the truth of this matter.  The disblief that this monster has been
> > > allowed to grow so large, and how can it be stopped.  Peoples minds
> > > are effected by the waves, so I have to work with the factor, that I
> > > must forgive them (to an extent) because they too are under the
> > > influence.
> > > So I look for information in the reports that they provide.  Yes I am
> > > reading between the lines.  I believe in the microwave auditory
> > > effect, I feel the effects on my nervous system, it scares me.
> > > I am trying to keep a tight control on my anger, anger is a bundle of
> > > emotions.  How many times in my life so far have I been dissuated,
> > > because the one I have asked for help has said it's too complicated,
> > > usually what I have found out later is that they didn't have the
> > > answer in the first place.
> > > They may be experts in the scientific community but they are only part
> > > of what makes the world.  They might be singing, but anyone with any
> > > insight can see the waves going thru the brain and figure that the
> > > brain is not a void, even the effects on neural synpse, neural synapse
> > > are roughly nanometres apart, would they not be effected in the wave.
> > > I never though I would have to think about such things.
> > > Thank you for responding, I don't have anyone to talk to about this.
> > > My husband gets a glazed look on his face when I ponder the situation
> > > out loud.
> > > Patty
> > > On Feb 24, 10:28 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >   Yes but sometimes rants about how complicated subjects happen to be
> > > > just another form of avoiding the issue and reaching conclusions
> > > > WHO's job is to
> > > > interfer with reaching conclusions, complicated or not  Yes I would
> > > > assume they give some insights, but basically it is up to us to read
> > > > between the lines because WHO is NEVER  going to tell us the whole
> > > > truth because they would lose their non profit funding and the top
> > > > people would lose their easy ride
>
> > > >    And just as I suspected, considering the link you provided, WHO is
> > > > singing
> > > > like a canary to protect the industry it is suppose to be studying for
> > > > ill
> > > > health effects  Notice how they so eloquently keep the conversation
> > > > about
> > > > RF levels  Not all wireless is RF  And not all wireless is modulation
> > > > of RF
>
> > > >   THE BOLD BASIC TRUTH IS BRAIN TUMORS, CANCERS IN MEN N WOMEN,
> > > > DIABETIES, CENTRAL NERVOUS
> > > > SYSTEM DISORDERS, ADD TYPE DISORDERS, OBSESSIVE DISORDERS,
> > > > CHRONIC INSOMIA, CHRONIC FATIQUE TYPE DISORDERS, BIRTH DEFECTS AND
> > > > STILL BIRTHS, BREATHING PROBLEMS (Asthma), AS WELL AS
> > > > TOO LARGE OF A PORTION OF THE POPULATION IS LEANING TOWARDS
> > > > ROAD RAGES OR THE EXTREME OF GOING POSTAL
>
> > > >   Something in our environments are inducing our bodies to go through
> > > > these
> > > > multiple changes of our immune systems not being able to do the job
> > > > it use to
>
> > > >   Radiation and magnetic fields fill this bill more than any other
> > > > form of
> > > > technology advancement  and that points at the advancement of wireless
>
> > > >   WHO can pretend from now until Doomsday, but pretending is what they
> > > > are doing   WHO knows perfectly well where there money comes from and
> > > > they have the brains to not bite the hand that feeds them even with
> > > > despite unavoidable uncertainty to deal with   I notice they also go
> > > > out of
> > > > their way to not link our 60 Hz grid or European's 50 Hz grid to not
> > > > be
> > > > considered part of the equation when it is a very large part of the
> > > > equation
>
> > > > As summarized here, these separate avenues of scientific investigation
> > > > provide little support for adverse health effects arising from RF
> > > > exposure at levels below current international standards. Moreover,
> > > > radio and television broadcast waves have exposed populations to RF
> > > > for > 50 years with little evidence of deleterious health
> > > > consequences. Despite unavoidable uncertainty, current scientific data
> > > > are consistent with the conclusion that public exposures to
> > > > permissible RF levels from mobile telephony and base stations are not
> > > > likely to adversely affect human health.
>
> > > > Radiofrequency (RF) waves have long been used for different types of
> > > > information exchange via the airwaves—wireless Morse code, radio,
> > > > television, and wireless telephony (i.e., construction and operation
> > > > of telephones or telephonic systems) . Increasingly larger numbers of
> > > > people rely on mobile telephone technology, and health concerns about
> > > > the associated RF exposure have been raised, particularly because the
> > > > mobile phone handset operates in close proximity to the human body,
> > > > and also because large numbers of base station antennas are required
> > > > to provide widespread availability of service to large populations.
> > > > The World Health Organization convened an expert workshop to discuss
> > > > the current state of cellular-telephone health issues, and this
> > > > article brings together several of the key points that were addressed.
> > > > The possibility of RF health effects has been investigated in
> > > > epidemiology studies of cellular telephone users and workers in RF
> > > > occupations, in experiments with animals exposed to cell-phone RF, and
> > > > via biophysical consideration of cell-phone RF electric-field
> > > > intensity and the effect of RF modulation schemes.
>
> > > >   FOR THE MOST PART, WHATEVER THIS ORGANIZATION WHO
> > > > LEADS, invokes in me to look in the opposite direction because my
> > > > gut tells me WHO is misleading us just as far as they possibly can
> > > > get away with
>
> > > >    I DON'T TRUST THIS ORGANIZATION "WHO".    Do you trust
> > > > the FDA????
>
> > > > On Feb 21, 10:12 am, patty <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi dboots; Just type in Characteristics, Dosimetry & Measurement of
> > > > > EMF it's out there google and yahoo.
> > > > > orwww.WHO.int/peh-emf/meetings/southkorea/en/SeoulWHOTaki.pdf.
> > > > > What I like to read is thier Workgroup Reports.  Workgroup Report:
> > > > > Base Stations and Wireless Networks-Radiofrequency (RF) Exposures and
> > > > > Health Consequences, is the latest I've 
> > > > > found.http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/2006/9633/9633.html
> > > > > I find the workgroup reports give an insight; In the one mentioned
> > > > > above they rant about lay people and how that we just don't understand
> > > > > how complicated this subject is.
> > > > > I would like to rant a bit too, difficult, they should be in the
> > > > > position of trying to prove that the hum does have a detrimental
> > > > > physical effect.  I wrote and asked them to be honest about the
> > > > > hearing effect.
> > > > > It p's me off when I read that they say it is a trival effect, let
> > > > > them see the pain created by my facial nerve, which I can not control.
> > > > > I hope the information provided can link you
> > > > > Patty
>
> > > > > On Feb 19, 7:10 pm, dboots <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > John    Fudge Factor is right   The webs they weave when they 
> > > > > > practice
> > > > > > to deceive
> > > > > > Patty   Can you supply the link to this pdf ur referencing???    
> > > > > > From
> > > > > > what I have learned about WHO, their funding leans their studies to 
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > also part of the problem of the "Fudge Factor" of influencing public
> > > > > > opinion
> > > > > > so sometimes we need to
>
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