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> On Oct 9, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Linda, > As I understand, I need to merge the relevant contents of the NSFs Capability > Information Model Draft into the I2NSF NSF Capability Data Model Draft. > > Is it correct? > > Thanks. > > Best Regards, > Paul > > 2020년 10월 9일 (금) 오후 11:58, Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>님이 작성: >> I2NSF WG, >> >> >> >> Correction: >> >> >> >> There has been NO object to the Author’s request for sunsetting the >> draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-5. >> >> >> >> We have marked the draft as “DEAD” in the WG status. >> >> >> >> Many thanks to the authors for putting the effort in this draft for >> kickstarting all the data models in I2NSF WG. >> >> >> >> Linda & Yoav >> >> >> >> From: Linda Dunbar >> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 4:36 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-05 is officially removed from I2NSF WG >> ( was RE: Is there any objection of sunset the I2NSF Capabilities >> Information Model Draft and merge the relevant information to the I2NSF >> Capability Data model draft? >> >> >> >> I2nsf WG, >> >> >> >> There has been any objection to the Author’s request for sunsetting the >> draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-05. >> >> >> >> Authors of the draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model: please remove the >> reference to the Capability Information Model and upload a new draft. We can >> ask IESG to re-review it. >> >> >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> >> >> Linda & Yoav. >> >> >> >> From: Linda Dunbar >> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 11:00 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Is there any objection of sunset the I2NSF Capabilities Information >> Model Draft and merge the relevant information to the I2NSF Capability Data >> model draft? >> >> >> >> I2NSF WG, >> >> >> >> As Diego has expressed that the original I2NSF capability information model >> was based on a policy expression calculus suitable for manipulating >> high-level policy expressions. The capability data model has been evolving >> in a quite reasonable and pragmatic way, including running code at the >> hackathons. >> >> >> >> The I2NSF Capability Information Model has fulfilled its purpose of >> kickstarting and guiding the data model, and the authors believe that it is >> better to let the capability information model to be withdrawn. For the >> content in the information model still relevant to I2NSF Capability Data >> Model, they should be merged into the Capability Data Model. >> >> >> >> Is there any objection from the WG? If we don’t hear any objection by Oct >> 5, we will change the status of the draft. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> >> Linda & Yoav >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Diego R. Lopez <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 5:35 PM >> To: Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong >> <[email protected]> >> Cc: Xialiang (Frank) <[email protected]>; Yoav Nir >> <[email protected]>; John Strassner <[email protected]>; Aldo >> Basile <[email protected]>; Roman Danyliw <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Offer for Revision Help for I2NSF NSFs Capabilities Information >> Model Draft >> >> >> >> Hi Linda, >> >> >> >> I’d prefer the second option, as it seems more straightforward and natural >> to me, and in parallel would like you to consider the idea of an I2NSF >> extension allowing us to reuse the capability model for policy-control >> transformation, and to incorporate the attestation matters you know I was so >> much interested in. >> >> >> >> Be goode, >> >> >> >> -- >> >> "Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno" >> >> >> >> Dr Diego R. Lopez >> >> Telefonica I+D >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr2lopez/ >> >> >> >> e-mail: [email protected] >> >> Tel: +34 913 129 041 >> >> Mobile: +34 682 051 091 >> >> ---------------------------------- >> >> >> >> On 22/09/2020, 18:01, "Linda Dunbar" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Diego: >> >> >> >> Thank you very much for the reflection of the Capabilities Information Model >> Draft. Agree with your statement that “the capability data model was >> evolving in a quite reasonable and pragmatic way, including running code at >> the hackathons”. >> >> >> >> Looks like Eric Vyncke still wants the information model to be fixed to >> clear his “DISCUSS” ballot. >> >> How about the following steps: >> >> - Ask Roman’s advice if we can simplify the Information Model >> mainly to reflect what has been in the Data Model. >> >> - Or, drop the Information model draft and remove the refence to >> the draft, but Roman has to convince Eric to agree not having the >> information model. >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> Linda >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Diego R. Lopez <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:50 AM >> To: Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <[email protected]>; Linda Dunbar >> <[email protected]> >> Cc: Xialiang (Frank) <[email protected]>; Yoav Nir >> <[email protected]>; John Strassner <[email protected]>; Aldo >> Basile <[email protected]>; Roman Danyliw <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Offer for Revision Help for I2NSF NSFs Capabilities Information >> Model Draft >> >> >> >> Hi Paul, >> >> >> >> Before you go for it, let me share with you some reflections on the state of >> the draft, in the spirit of what I replied to Eric Vyncke. >> >> >> >> I must confess there has been a combination of events that made me think the >> best solution was to leave this draft to fade away. First, I was not (have >> not been yet) able to find a solution to most of Roman’s comments without >> totally rewriting most, if not all, of the document. Second, the fact that >> the capability data model was evolving in a quite reasonable and pragmatic >> way, including running code at the hackathons, following the spirit of the >> initial work in the information model, but not attempting to align with its >> most recent evolution. If I have not shared this position before is because >> I have been looking for a way to make the idea of bridging capability >> declarations and security policy statements at the I2NSF controller viable, >> and I was hoping to find such a way by reusing part of the capability info >> model draft. >> >> >> >> As I told Eric, I believe the current capability model has a powerful >> (though probably not yet complete) calculus for policy description and >> validation, but not directly related to the management mechanisms addressed >> in the capability data model and the other data models produced in I2NSF. I >> believe there is an opportunity for accomplishing policy-capability >> bridging, using as foundation the current capability model, though it seems >> to me that this task would require some time to consolidate and therefore >> imply an extension of the I2NSF lifetime. I would like to know your >> position(*) about such an extension, that could also become an opportunity >> to work in other matters related to attestation (in the light of the work in >> RATS and the MUD initiative within the Ops Area) and accounting. >> >> >> >> Be goode, >> >> >> >> (*) I assume you are in favor, Paul. But I’d like to get Linda’s, Yoav’s and >> Roman’s ideas, as well as the availability to work on this from Frank, John >> and Aldo. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> "Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno" >> >> >> >> Dr Diego R. Lopez >> >> Telefonica I+D >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr2lopez/ >> >> >> >> e-mail: [email protected] >> >> Tel: +34 913 129 041 >> >> Mobile: +34 682 051 091 >> >> ---------------------------------- >> >> >> >> On 17/09/2020, 01:42, "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Linda, >> >> I will address our AD Roman's comments on this NSFs capabilities information >> draft as the 2nd editor through the collaboration with Frank (the 1st >> editor) and the other authors. >> >> >> >> I CC our AD Roman and the other authors, such as John and Cataldo. >> >> >> Thanks for your support and guidance. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> 2020년 9월 17일 (목) 오전 3:44, Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>님이 작성: >> >> Paul, >> >> >> >> Thank you very much for offering to address the AD comments to this draft. >> Looks like the current authors are too busy to address those comments. It >> has been over a year since the AD comments were given. We need to move the >> draft forward. Therefore, I2NSF chairs have authorized you to be one of the >> editors to address the AD comments and revise the draft. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> >> >> Linda & Yoav >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 10:09 AM >> To: Xialiang (Frank) <[email protected]> >> Cc: Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>; Yoav Nir >> <[email protected]>; DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA <[email protected]>; >> Jaehoon Jeong <[email protected]> >> Subject: Offer for Revision Help for I2NSF NSFs Capabilities Information >> Model Draft >> >> >> >> Hi Frank, >> >> Could I help you to revise your information model draft for our AD Roman >> Danyliw's review comments as a co-editor? >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability/?include_text=1 >> >> >> >> As you know, I have finished our I2NSF data model drafts. >> >> >> >> I am happy to work on the revision with you in order to complete our I2NSF >> deliverables. >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, >> puede contener información privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso >> exclusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. 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