On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 1/23/13 5:04 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:
> > I'd be interested in hearing others perspective on the use-cases
> requiring
> > multi-headed control and what you see this requirement as meaning.  This
> > is a rather
> > different requirement, in terms of embedding the policy-enforcement into
> > the
> > routing system, from what is currently done for CLI/NetConf/SNMP.  In
> > those cases,
> > the latest writing wins and installs its state.  For i2rs, an idea
> > proposed (in
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-atlas-irs-policy-framework) is that
> > different i2rs clients
> > are decided between based upon precedence.
> >
> > Frequently, different services are "known" to not collide, based upon
> > human-assigned
> > policy - such as different prefixes for different traffic types, etc.
> >
> > To get things started with a use-case, consider that there are two
> > different services
> > that are using i2rs.
> >     a) Special Traffic Flow Routing:  a service that installs
> > policy-based routing filters to
> >         route specific traffic on predetermined paths.
> >     b) DDoS Detection:  a service that detects traffic of interest and
> > installs policy-based
> >        routing filters to route the suspicious traffic to an analysis
> box.
> > In this case, the second service could have a higher precedence to
> > override the first service's
> > installed filters when necessary.
> >
> > Any opinions?
>
> More like a thought.  In the use case you describe, couldn't both
> coexist?  Meaning you could simply have two PBR "actions," one that
> routes the traffic and the other that copies the interesting traffic to
> the DDoS sniffer.  So the precedence may be the same and both can
> coexist.  Now, if the DDoS service finds a problem in the copied
> traffic, it can install an overlapping policy that would preempt the
> original.
>

Exactly - both could exist unless the DDoS service finds a problem with
a flow being routed by the first service.


> As to the flow in the draft, if the new, higher-precedence service is
> transient and the store-if-not-best bit is set, then the previous state
> will be restored (if it has the next best precedence).  Shouldn't the
> commissioner be notified again that its state is active again?
>

Absolutely - I'll double-check to be sure that's in there when we revise
the draft.

Regards,
Alia


>
> Joe
>
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