2016-06-17 21:37 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>: > > > On 17 June 2016 at 01:17, Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote: > >> >> >> 2016-06-17 12:07 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>: >> >>> >>> On 16 June 2016 at 13:49, Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Great news Dave! hopefully more and more OLPC members will join the >>>> conversation on the IEP list. >>>> >>> >>> Sadly, I must admit that I do not expect anyone at OLPC to join this >>> list. >>> >> >> Could you please explain why? >> > > Most adults do not 'get' internet culture: They do not participate on the > net any more than they have to, beyond connecting with friends and family > they know face to face. There is no participation in any online > communities; they do not understand why discussing with strangers on the > internet could be valuable - it is just a waste of time, from their > perspective, and they weigh the downsides - not only having their ideas and > ideologies criticised, but often personally attacked - much heavier than we > (we who do participate) do. > > In working with teams at both small and large companies over the years, > despite working on tech products directly related to the internet, I have > met _many_ people who have no interest in internet culture. There is > nothing about them online. They have their families, their sports/social > clubs, their TV magazines and other "old media"; they perform labour that > they learned to do in their early 20s at college, and learn new aspects of > their work through training courses that their employer provides. > > And this is only my impression, but it is my impression that the company > culture at OLPC Inc today is one of mainstream normality: good, friendly, > kind people who work in their office diligently at regular hours, and are > not obsessed with their work, and do not take their work home with them, > and have zero patience for anything other that professional, courteous > interactions, that involved respected lines of authority. > > I have this impression not from speaking with Leah, but by browsing their > web properties - homepage, wiki, mailing lists, etc - which are all very > old, and not updated this year (except the blog) - and their total absence > not only from recent discussions but the archives too. > > >> - OLPC offered XO-1.75 and XO-4 upgrade kits in the past, to upgrade >>>>> XO-1s, but they didn't sell that well; she agreed with Tony's assessment >>>>> that users will run the XO-1 until it fails, and OLPC has no EOL date in >>>>> mind >>>>> >>>>> - OLPC is still offering XO-4s (touch and non-touch) with a minimum >>>>> order of 100 units through the end of this year for sure, and has a few >>>>> units in stock in Miami if anyone wants to buy just one or two; and Leah >>>>> said they could look into updating the laptop.org website to make the >>>>> offer public >>>>> >>>> I belive SL business is the software We should not pay for any hardware >>>> (besides the servers) that must be provided from PC manufacturers for >>>> development ans testing. We already have experience with Intell locally. >>>> >>> >>> You do not think SL should offer hardware to developers to raise funds? >>> >> >> Can you also please explain what is what you are proposing? >> > > I think SL should offer hardware to developers to raise funds, and to make > these developers more effective at meeting the needs of Sugar users, the > majority of which are XO-1 users. >
You think SL should sell hardware to non-community developers? > > >> - OLPC is now also offering a newer model, a classmate-spec machine, and >>>>> will send me details about this; its rugged and branded but not got the >>>>> pixel qi screen. >>>>> - OLPC only ships Sugar, and is very happy with it, and wants to >>>>> support the developer community although isn't sure how to so; >>>>> >>>> >>>> And we are very happy supporting the OLPCs too. We would like to >>>> continue doing so in a sustainable way for active members. We should let >>>> them know, we are developing a thematic fund structure for OLPC and other >>>> "investors" to be able to directorate the resources into specific projects. >>>> >>> >>> I agree that they ought to be one of the many companies we approach for >>> funding in the future :) >>> >> >> I read from your email they are ready to "support the developer >> community" so *let's not keep everybody waiting*! >> >> :D >> > > What are the concrete next steps to take along that path? > > If OLPC wants to support the developer community, we could ask them to fund one or two "Sugar Fellowships" (a merit-based financial aid) one for the infrastructure team and one for the development team. > > -- > Cheers > Dave > -- Laura V. I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org Identi.ca/Skype acaire IRC kaametza Happy Learning!
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