Dave,
Your "ageism" is showing.
Caryl (age 79 years young)
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> On Jun 17, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
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>
>
>> On 17 June 2016 at 01:17, Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote:
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>> 2016-06-17 12:07 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 16 June 2016 at 13:49, Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote:
>>>> Great news Dave! hopefully more and more OLPC members will join the
>>>> conversation on the IEP list.
>>>
>>> Sadly, I must admit that I do not expect anyone at OLPC to join this list.
>>
>> Could you please explain why?
>
> Most adults do not 'get' internet culture: They do not participate on the net
> any more than they have to, beyond connecting with friends and family they
> know face to face. There is no participation in any online communities; they
> do not understand why discussing with strangers on the internet could be
> valuable - it is just a waste of time, from their perspective, and they weigh
> the downsides - not only having their ideas and ideologies criticised, but
> often personally attacked - much heavier than we (we who do participate) do.
>
> In working with teams at both small and large companies over the years,
> despite working on tech products directly related to the internet, I have met
> _many_ people who have no interest in internet culture. There is nothing
> about them online. They have their families, their sports/social clubs, their
> TV magazines and other "old media"; they perform labour that they learned to
> do in their early 20s at college, and learn new aspects of their work through
> training courses that their employer provides.
>
> And this is only my impression, but it is my impression that the company
> culture at OLPC Inc today is one of mainstream normality: good, friendly,
> kind people who work in their office diligently at regular hours, and are not
> obsessed with their work, and do not take their work home with them, and have
> zero patience for anything other that professional, courteous interactions,
> that involved respected lines of authority.
>
> I have this impression not from speaking with Leah, but by browsing their web
> properties - homepage, wiki, mailing lists, etc - which are all very old, and
> not updated this year (except the blog) - and their total absence not only
> from recent discussions but the archives too.
>
>>>>> - OLPC offered XO-1.75 and XO-4 upgrade kits in the past, to upgrade
>>>>> XO-1s, but they didn't sell that well; she agreed with Tony's assessment
>>>>> that users will run the XO-1 until it fails, and OLPC has no EOL date in
>>>>> mind
>>>>>
>>>>> - OLPC is still offering XO-4s (touch and non-touch) with a minimum order
>>>>> of 100 units through the end of this year for sure, and has a few units
>>>>> in stock in Miami if anyone wants to buy just one or two; and Leah said
>>>>> they could look into updating the laptop.org website to make the offer
>>>>> public
>>>>
>>>> I belive SL business is the software We should not pay for any hardware
>>>> (besides the servers) that must be provided from PC manufacturers for
>>>> development ans testing. We already have experience with Intell locally.
>>>
>>> You do not think SL should offer hardware to developers to raise funds?
>>
>> Can you also please explain what is what you are proposing?
>
> I think SL should offer hardware to developers to raise funds, and to make
> these developers more effective at meeting the needs of Sugar users, the
> majority of which are XO-1 users.
>
>>>>> - OLPC is now also offering a newer model, a classmate-spec machine, and
>>>>> will send me details about this; its rugged and branded but not got the
>>>>> pixel qi screen.
>>>>> - OLPC only ships Sugar, and is very happy with it, and wants to support
>>>>> the developer community although isn't sure how to so;
>>>>
>>>> And we are very happy supporting the OLPCs too. We would like to continue
>>>> doing so in a sustainable way for active members. We should let them know,
>>>> we are developing a thematic fund structure for OLPC and other "investors"
>>>> to be able to directorate the resources into specific projects.
>>>
>>> I agree that they ought to be one of the many companies we approach for
>>> funding in the future :)
>>
>> I read from your email they are ready to "support the developer community"
>> so let's not keep everybody waiting!
>>
>> :D
>
> What are the concrete next steps to take along that path?
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Dave
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