Nah itu Noor. Di Indonesia masih tataran konsep, tetapi ditempat lain sudah terbukti. Seperti yang teman2 lain katakan yang tersulit dalam unconventional (mungkin kita batasi dulu pada dua jenis yang sekarang sedang 'in' yaitu CBM dan Shale gas) adalah pada ekstraksi dan bukan eksplorasinya alias bagaimana mengubah resource kita menjadi reserves dan produksi. Resource Indonesia jelas lumayan besar. Ada yang mengutip 400 TCF untuk resource CBM saja dan banyak diantara resource tersebut yang berlokasi di cekungan-cekungan yang kita sudah familiar. Nah, kalau negara lain sudah melakukannya, kita tinggal mengadopsi dan mengadaptasikannya dengan kondisi resource kita.
Saya rasa itu bakal lebih murah dan cepat ketimbang mesti mencari 1-2 atau beberapa belas TCF di frontier. Tentunya ini bukan berarti saya menganjurkan untuk stop frontier exploration looh.... Salam O' (Yang sampai beberapa tahun kemarin masih skeptis dengan unconventional tapi sekarang malah jadi convert.....) ------------------------------ On Wed, May 23, 2012 8:44 AM ICT noor syarifuddin wrote: >Q, >sorry, satu kata terlupa di email aku sebelumnya.... >=== >kita tahu persis bahwa exploitasi CBM DI INDONESIA masih pada tataran >konsep, dan setahu saya belum ada yang terbukti berproduksi dengan komersial. >=== > >Di tempat lain memang sudah terbukti...bahkan banjir seperti di USA sana.... >tapi mereka dengan setting iklim yang berbeda.. > > >salam, > >--- On Tue, 5/22/12, o - musakti <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: o - musakti <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Frontier atau Unconventional ? >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 5:57 AM >> >> Santos sedang membangun 2 train LNG di Gladstone Queensland >> dengan total project cost 16 milyar dollar. Total juga >> bagian dari konsorsium ini. >> >> Menurut websitenya, sampai saat ini sudah 200 an sumur dibor >> dan ada satu lapangan yang menghasilkan sampai 200 >> MMCFD.....not bad. Konsepnya menarik, karena sebagian gas >> dia simpan di depletd reservoir bekas lapangan minyak >> (sebagai strategic reserve). >> >> Yang jelas perusahaan sekelas Petronas dan Kogas sudah >> setuju untuk beli gasnya. Potensial untuk melakukan hal yang >> sama di east Kal dan south-central sumatra ? >> >> So bottomline, some big companies think that CSM is much >> more than conceptual stage.....dan berani keluarkan uang >> untuk membuktikannya.... >> ------------------------------ >> On Tue, May 22, 2012 10:01 AM ICT noor syarifuddin wrote: >> >> >Q, >> >kita tahu persis bahwa exploitasi CBM masih pada tataran >> konsep, dan setahu saya belum ada yang terbukti berproduksi >> dengan komersial. Salah satu resiko yang dipahami bersama >> adalah proses dewatering yang tidak berkesudahan karena ada >> asupan air dari akifernya....ini kelihatannya mulai terbukti >> karena beberapa operator mengindikasikan bahwa setiap kali >> pompanya mati, maka mereka harus memulai lagi prosesnya.... >> > >> >dengan dasar itu, maka di Indonesia CBm selain >> non-conventional juga masih kategori frontier karena belum >> terbukti produksinya. >> > >> >pertanyaanya: kenapa harus memilih....dua-duanya punya >> "segmen pasar" yang berbeda kok...... yang mau "murah >> meriah" ya lebih senang masuk CBM...yang senang sedikit >> petualangan ya ambil daerah frontier (sambil menikmati >> kemewahan sebagai seorang geologis yang boleh korelasi sumur >> berjarak 600 km...dan dipercaya lagi oleh manajemen...:-) >> > >> > >> >salam, >> > >> > >> >--- On Mon, 5/21/12, o - musakti <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > From: o - musakti <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Frontier atau >> Unconventional ? >> > To: [email protected] >> > Date: Monday, May 21, 2012, 10:10 AM >> > >> > >> > Yaah pak Ketu, secara ini khan multiple choice jadi >> jangan >> > dua-duanya dong... ;) >> > >> > Tapi seriously, kalau memang dua-duanya bisa >> dijalankan sih >> > bagus saja. Tapi kalau kita bicara Prioritas, kira2 >> mana >> > yang mesti diprioritaskan ? >> > >> > Prioritas ini misalnya, kalau Migas mau buat >> spec-survey, >> > mana yang mesti dijalankan (asumsi dana cuma buat >> 1 >> > project). kalau mau bikin revisi split production >> sharing, >> > mana yang mesti didahulukan de-el-el..... >> > ------------------------------ >> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 8:35 PM ICT Rovicky Dwi >> Putrohari >> > wrote: >> > >> > >Lah kalau keduanya dalam lokasi geografis yang >> berbeda >> > ya ga apapa >> > >dijalankan bersama-sama to Mas OQ? >> > >Kecuali memang operasi keduanya saling >> berkaitan erat. >> > Misal, apakah >> > >didahulukan CBM atau pengambilan Batubaranya ? >> Keduanya >> > jelas saling >> > >tumpang tindih. >> > >Bahkan kalau saya lihat dapat dilakukan secara >> simultan >> > mengapa tidak ? >> > >Misal deeper exploration frontier target dengan >> tight >> > gas. >> > > >> > >Jadi kalau yg ditanya OQ antara frontier dan >> > unconventional saya rasa >> > >bareng2 gapapa. >> > > >> > >Rdp >> > > >> > >On Monday, May 21, 2012, o - musakti wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > Untuk meningkatkan cadangan dan produksi >> migas >> > Indonesia saat ini, >> > > kira-kira yang manakah yang lebih perlu >> > digalakkan apakah eksplorasi di >> > > daerah frontier atau e&p unkonventional ? >> > > >> > > (Tapi jawaban jangan dua-duanya dong ya...) >> > > >> > > Kalau saya pribadi lebih cenderung ke arah >> > unconventional (shale gas atau >> > > cbm)terutama di daerah yang infrastrukturnya >> sudah >> > tersedia seperti south >> > > and central sumatra, east Kal dll. 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