Well,  I must share our last experience, the difficult one.  We were
mandated to preserve the EXACT logon sequence from the UADS days, byte for
bleeping byte.  The TSO user was formerly prompted for the UADS "password"
which mapped to the logon proc.  We had to write an exit to preserve the
prompt, populate the TSO segment that contains the logon proc (each of which
we had to rename) to match the UADS value, then log the user on. 

You would think our crack management team would appreciate losing a
keystroke sequence at logon time, times thousands of TSO users by losing the
UADS baggage.  But Noooooooooooo.

Glad it's not my money......

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ed Gould
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Userids

on 6/2/05 8:19 PM, Tony Babonas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Oh my gosh, I thought we were the last company to convert from UADS to 
> external security (TSS last year).  It's mystifying why anyone would 
> "outvote" you on this count.  We were years and years overdue but 
> we're certainly not looking back.
> 
> I've done several of these conversions, each with the popular 3 ESMs, 
> all but the last were easy, transparent, and gradually phased in.
> 
> My sympathies,
> tb
> 
Tony,

I was a hold out as well. One of the main reasons was that our security
people were clueless when it came to assigning userids.

It was only after giving them strict guidelines and a physical threat to cut
off certain pieces of their body did I let go. I still had final OK but let
them do most of the work. The systems group maintain the responsibility for
defining their alias in the mastercat(s).

Ed

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