>> Putting on my IBM hat here...have you looked at WebSphere 
>> Developer for
>> zSeries (aka WSED)?  With that, you have the option of doing 
>> COBOL, PL/I, or
>> Assembler development locally on the workstation....
>[....]
>I tried looking at WSED, but I cannot figure out how to get a simple
>price. I don't have the authority to contact a sales person, myself.
>Plus, I don't like talking to sales people. They are almost as bad as
>lawyers for "weasel words" (sorry, but that's my experience). And I'm
>not going to ask our VP to do it if he's going to get a reply along the
>lines of "it's only about $1,000,000 for an initial license, then
>$10,000 per seat per year (upgrade fees not included)." I'll look like a
>complete moron. I try to avoid that. Makes you wonder why I post
>questions here, doesn't it? <GRIN>
>Now, if somebody here knows the cost and is willing to share, I'd be
>very interested in reading.

OK, glad to oblige.  I just went to ibm.com.  Presto, bingo...

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info/ecatalog/en_US/products/H564288F91212R05.html?OC=&CC=&VP=&EO=&S_TACT=none&S_CMP=none

(That's the U.S. link.)  Click on "View Pricing."  If you want to know 
what those part numbers are exactly, the announcement letter helps:

http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/2/897/ENUS205-112/ENUS205-112.PDF

The "floating" part number is interesting.  It means you can have any 
number of developers using the tool, one at a time.  (It's a concurrent 
user license.)  This is great if you have zSeries staff on two or three 
shifts.  You come out a little ahead with two shifts and very much ahead 
with three.  It's also great if you have ad hoc developer teams.

Note that these are "quantity one, no other IBM software, ever" prices 
(i.e. Passport Advantage Express).  Chances are that most people on this 
list will enjoy a lower price.  Telephone support is included in the 
price, and so is one year of version updates.  You have rights to the 
software in perpetuity -- at the version available at the moment you ended 
your subscription if you do end it.  (This means IBM has to earn your 
renewal every year by adding value.)

Note also that WebSphere Developer for zSeries does everything that 
Rational Application Developer (RAD) does.  (RAD is included.)  Price RAD 
and you'll discover that RAD makes up nearly three quarters of the price 
of WDz.  RAD is the mainline tool for WebSphere Java development.

Here's the main product page:

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/devzseries/

List of training courses here:

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/devzseries/education/

including self-study computer-based training.  Yes, friends, you can set 
breakpoints in COBOL exactly the same way a WebSphere developer does in 
Java.  It's pretty astonishing, actually -- and thoroughly modern Eclipse 
open source-based tooling.  Enjoy.

- - - - -
Timothy F. Sipples
Consulting Software Architect, Enterprise Transformation
IBM Americas zSeries Software
Phone: (312) 245-4003
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PGP key available.)

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