>Thanks for the link. For us, the price is simply too great. I won't go
>into detail, but at a cost of $7,000 ($5,500 WSED + $1,500 EGL) per
>programmer, that is way too expensive. That is, given the management
>mind set around here ("Windows Everywhere!!!"). We have about 70
>programmers. All of whom work "normal business hours". Therefore
>"floating licenses" are useless. So, the initial cost would be $490,000.
>And all we would use it for is COBOL development (CICS and batch). At
>least, that's how management would view it. I know it does very much
>more. But it does things that management would not take into
>consideration, such as Java ("What? No .NET on z/OS??"), and other
>functions that are currently done by other OEM products ("Convert? What
>a bother!").1. That's fantasy^H^H^H^H^H^H^H list price. 2. Why would you license all 70 developers in one chunk? (Who buys software that way?) You'd like "two copies to evaluate." 3. Are you sure you need the EGL extension? (You only need the EGL extension if you're writing EGL *and* you are *generating* COBOL from it. You don't need it to write COBOL. Note that EGL-to-Java is in RAD already.) 4. You should still tell your bosses that you want tools to write Java. Put a stake in the ground. If they deny you that, they are denying your career advancement -- and no one can question that. And, by the way, you should be saying, "Our customers would be better served if we try to move away from vendor lock-in, so it's important that any code we write can run on Windows, Linux, or any other platform. That will help us keep our business flexible and put us in a better negotiating position with vendors to keep our acquisition costs under control." They're old proprietary thinking, and you're not about that. >Sorry. I wish it were otherwise, but NO SALE. But I'll at least talk it >over with my team leader. Who is also very depressed by the attitude >around here. Good luck. - - - - - Timothy F. Sipples Consulting Software Architect, Enterprise Transformation IBM Americas zSeries Software Phone: (312) 245-4003 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PGP key available.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
