Steve

Sorry about the delay. You've been owed an apology for a long time. It's just I 
processed the thread without the "was" first - and other matters came along.

I got round finally to the archive search you suggested and discovered your 
contributions to this topic the last time (?) it flared up in June 2007.

So I apologise for not appreciating you are on the side of "for correct use"[1] 
as opposed to "for incorrect use". It's just I prefer your complete sentences 
over your cryptic references!

So, to the reasons about which I have protested already, namely

1. "USS" is ambiguous when TELNET, possibly TN3270, is under discussion
2. "USS" can be mistaken as *only* meaning UNIX System Services

you added, back in June 2007,

3. The risk for a maintenance query to be misrouted when "USS" is misused as 
a keyword

I would have thought that, for those who specifically don't care about the 
other two - and I can name at least one with explicit written evidence - this 
last consideration should be compelling - but there's no accounting for bigotry.

Incidentally, apropos of your interesting post of "Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:47:51 -
0400", I have always assumed that the so popular expression "whatever" - 
which is I believe what you meant as the disappearing distinction between IBM 
and the rest when it comes to product quality - is one word rather than two. I 
always equate it to a particularly expression associated with those closely 
associated with the Mediterranean which involves the following simultaneously:

a. a slight raising of the shoulders
b. a slight jutting of the chin
c. an exhalation in the form of what linguists call a "plosive" usually written 
as "Eh!"

Chris Mason

[1] And having (re)read (very probably) the whole of that interesting post I 
can now rephrase that to "on the side of the angels"!

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:26:33 -0400, Thompson, Steve 
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Deep breath you need.
>
>Archive search you might.
>
>The picture and last laugh came from one who had been rebuffed for
>pointing out the confusion caused by using USS instead of OE or OMVS, or
>some such.
>
>Regards,
>Steve Thompson
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
>Behalf Of Chris Mason
>Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:51 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: USS misuse (was Re: Mainframe hacking)
>
>How ridiculous to propose that this is some sort of competition! And if
>it
>was so to be presented, the VTAM component would win by about two
>decades.
>
>Given that Howard Rifkind, supported by Jim Horne and Bruno Sugliani,
>jumped
>immediately to the incorrect interpretation of USS, that Ivan Warren
>denied
>the correct interpretation of USS and that Mary Anne Matyaz felt she had
>to
>apologise for the correct interpretation of USS, correct use of USS is a
>matter of *respect* for fellow list users.
>
>This unnecessary misunderstanding, compounded by denial and apology, has
>demonstrated that insistence on the correct use of USS is far from
>pedantry.
>
>What further nonsense is meant by "last laugh" and "interesting picture"
>I
>have no idea - perhaps the writer didn't checking the wind direction ...
>
>Perhaps considering "listiquette" before posting is to be recommended.
>
>As long as I am attacked on this point, I will repel with equal vigour.
>
>Chris Mason
>
>On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:33:15 -0400, Thompson, Steve
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>Behalf Of Chris Mason
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:19 AM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: Mainframe hacking
>>
>><SNIPPAGE>
>>The interpretation Howard, Jim and Bruno arrived at is, of course,
>total
>>
>>nonsense, caused solely because this persistent misuse of an
>>abbreviation for
>>UNIX System Services. So much so that USS can even be denied its proper
>>interpretation!!!
>>
>>Chris Mason
>>
>><SNIPPAGE>
>>
>>Unix System Services vs. VTAM and USS.  Pedantic. Last laugh.
>>Interesting picture here.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Steve Thompson

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