Paul Ip pisze:
Hi all,

I know VVDS can be created Implicltly when a NON-SMS VSAM or a SMS VSAM/nonVSAM is created under a 'NEW' volume. However, It seems to me that the VVDS (an ESDS itself) is not required to be cataloged (meanwhile, some of VVDS are under catalog [MCAT] since we've run a IDCAMS DEFINE Explicltly)

Can anyone give me an advice on which manual tells us that a VVDS (an ESDS itself) can be defined without under a catalog (while Using Datasets just tell not have to be under Master Catalog)

In addition, under DSLIST, when I input 'SYS1.VVDS', then it shows me those VVDS under catalog (with a *VSAM* cluster entry + a DATA component entry). So those VVDS do not under catalog will not be shown. However, if I input 'SYS1.VVDS.Vxxxxxx' (full name) then it shows me the VVDS (without a *VSAM* cluster entry, just a DATA component entry)... is it normal?
note: under DSLIST, "Include Additional Qualifiers" is checked

In a few words:
1. Create VVDS explicitly. Implicit VVDS has default size. Nowadays you can set up default size but default for default is TRK 10,10 - means troubles. 2. VVDS is an exception for ICF cataloging and VSAM naming as well. It is cataloged once, twice, or multiple times - it depends on datasets on the volume. It is managed by ICF, you cannot change it (unless you have add-on tools).


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