Thanks!
According to the reply from you and Scott, I could locate the *VSAM* entry 
(or multiple entries as the VVDS may under >1 UCAT and/or MCAT) under 
DSLIST via 'S*.VVDS.Vxxxxxx'

.....but I still found one of the VVDS (I'm not sure if it is a normal case or 
not, 
anyway the datasets under that volume seems normal to me):
1. under DSLIST, input 'S*.VVDS.Vxxxxxx' or '*.VVDS.Vxxxxxx' shows nothing
2. under DSLIST, input 'SYS1.VVDS.Vxxxxxx' shows the Data Component of 
that VVDS but not showing the Cluster (*VSAM*) of that VVDS. By 
using "Display Catalog Name", it shows the VVDS is under MCAT.
3. I do a LISTC CAT(MCAT) ALL and DITTO VB/DB against that MCAT, but I 
can't locate the entry of that VVDS (not found even search with the volser).

So under Point 2, the DSLIST tells me the VVDS is under MCAT but I could 
prove it elsewhere.....  (and now this is the only VVDS that I can't locate its 
cluster component).... it is quite confusing indeed

Paul

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:51:11 -0500, Rick Fochtman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

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>Yeah, I also expect a VVDS should have been cataloged under either MCAT
>or UCAT. However, there is a VVDS, it cannot be shown when I input
>'SYS1.VVDS' under DSLIST, but it can be found if I input
>'SYS1.VVDS.Vxxxxxx' (full name) under DSLIST. Even the VVDS can be seen
>under DSLIST with full name search, I didn't see a "*VSAM*" Cluster
>entry (only a Data Component entry there). In addition, when I issue a
>'LISTC ENT(/) ALL' command against the Data Component of that VVDS, it
>can't tell me where the VVDS is cataloged. So that's why I suspect the
>VVDS is not cataloged anywhere.....
>-----------------------------------<unsnip>------------------------------
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>Paul, the VVDS is ALWAYS cataloged in either a MCAT or UCAT. But it
>doesn't follow the "rules" regarding ALIAS processing. When you search
>for SYS1.VVDS, the system will look in the MCAT first. Since there's no
>ALIAS named SYS1, that's where the system search ends.
>
>Lets assume we're playing with 1 volume here, volser is 123456. If I
>define a VSAM cluster named U1.VSAM, the VVDS on volume 123456 will be
>cataloged in UCAT.ABC, 'cuz that's where the alias in MCAT points for
>U1. No U2.VSAM is created on the same volume, but in a different
>catalog, named UCAT.XYZ. Again the VVDS is cataloged in the same UCAT as
>the cluster.
>
>Try this:
>
>  LISTCAT LVL(SYS1) CAT(UCAT.ABC)
>
>To see the VVDS entry in one of those catalogs.
>
>You can see the same things in all the other UCATs that might have VVDS
>entries.
>
>It can be confusing, because the VSAM boys didn't quite follow the rules
>they imposed on us, but that's the way it is.
>
>Rick
>
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