I believe that slide refers to "round trips" within the z/OS world only.  There 
is no statement that CCSID conversion by a system other than z/OS (such as the 
PC ftp client in your example) will be covered in the 'round trip" guarantee.

You have to be transmitting and receiving with the same or a very compatible 
iconv() instance to be able to make such a guarantee.  It's remotely possible 
that transmission to a linux ftp client with an iconv() that is compatible with 
the z/OS iconv() *might* support such a guarantee (e.g., z/Linux), but I 
wouldn't bet on it.  And Win systems are almost guaranteed NOT to support such 
a guarantee.

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Charles Mills
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Anyone a Unicode Services expert? -- roundtrip conversion

Well, Peter, that's certainly consistent with what I see.

I'm looking, however, at slide 11 of
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ieduasst/stgv1r0/index.jsp?topic=/c
om.ibm.iea.zos/zos/1.9/IntegratingNewAppOnzOS/zOSV1R9_Integrating_newAppl_LE
UnicodeServices/player.html . (You may have to unfold that URL.)

It says "R - Roundtrip conversion. Roundtrip conversions between two CCSIDs
assure that all characters making the roundtrip arrive as they were
originally." How is that going to be accomplished if both 3F and 41
translate to 1A? How will they make the round trip back to what they were?

What does technique R mean?

I certainly understand that not every character in a given CCSID maps
meaningfully to another CCSID. That's why I said "possibly meaningless" in
my original question.

Charles
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Of Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:41 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Anyone a Unicode Services expert? -- roundtrip conversion

This is a false assumption: "... every code point in the from CCSID
translates to a unique (possibly "meaningless") code point in the to CCSID
...".

There is no guarantee that all code points in a given CCSID map to a
"unique" code point in any other CCSID.

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